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RE: Join The Resistance - SFLiberal - 11-20-2016

(11-20-2016, 01:58 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 08:07 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 07:49 PM)Valuesize Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 06:27 PM)Hugo Wrote: The biggest fantasy in this Wonky, is that you believe the NYT  and the Washington Post to be "fact based journalism".

Laughing Laughing

I've asked before without an answer. What are your top three favorite "fact based" news sources?

I recently saw a similar post on FB. Top answer:  InfoWars.  There you go!  America!

For the love of God, no wonder Trump got elected.

Obama was the best thing ever for Republicans.  The House, then the Senate, then the plurality of governorships, and now the Presidency.  Thanks Obama....... Laughing Crying Laughing


RE: Join The Resistance - Wonky3 - 11-21-2016

(11-20-2016, 11:26 PM)SFLiberal Wrote:
(11-20-2016, 01:58 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 08:07 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 07:49 PM)Valuesize Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 06:27 PM)Hugo Wrote: The biggest fantasy in this Wonky, is that you believe the NYT  and the Washington Post to be "fact based journalism".

Laughing Laughing

I've asked before without an answer. What are your top three favorite "fact based" news sources?

I recently saw a similar post on FB. Top answer:  InfoWars.  There you go!  America!

For the love of God, no wonder Trump got elected.

Obama was the best thing ever for Republicans.  The House, then the Senate, then the plurality of governorships, and now the Presidency.  Thanks Obama....... Laughing Crying Laughing
As always, simplistic. Truth be known, the most expert of the political pundits are still digging trying to understand why these shifts happen. Dewey/Truman, for instance. 

And Hugo, how about YOU give us examples of national publications you think are "fact based journalism".


RE: Join The Resistance - tvguy - 11-21-2016

(11-20-2016, 08:32 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(11-20-2016, 01:56 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 05:30 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 01:14 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-18-2016, 10:30 PM)Wonky3 Wrote: So don't be attentive and alert. Some will be. The "we". 

And if you don't have a clue about how being attentive and alert can accomplish change, I can't help you. 

Or you could pick up this weeks New Yorker and read George Packers "Will Our Democratic Institutions contain Trump?" A place to start at least. 

Oh...that's right: You only read Craig's List. 

Never mind.
OK but you still haven't answered my simple question. What good is being alert going to do you?
BTW I just posted the article you paid to read and I found it for free.

Your idea that everyone should pay for the long form journalism is great. If people did that instead of relying of facebook garbage.. that'ed be great.
But it's NEVER going to happen.

<Snipped the long and already publsihed part of this no one wants to read again>

So...you said above:" BTW I just posted the article you paid to read and I found it for free."

As you well know there is no free lunch. You know, of course, the author gets paid, the publication has expenses, and it's on th WEB free for a limited number of views per month in the hopes that those who find value in it will pay. So, in a sense, you get to read it on my nickle. 

This publication is just one that I feel adds to my ability (however limited) to be informed and alert. Armed with facts, rather than biased opinion, I hope I can make better decisions about the people I vote for and the social interactions I have. 

Long form newspapers and periodicals are suffering because our population feels that free sources on the NET provides sufficient information. Trump's election may well be a prime example of folks getting what they think is good information from the WEB and especially social media. 

Whatever. I read both, and feel strongly that information from subscriber based sources are superior. 

But that's just me. Do as you will, but remember please that those of us who pay for subscriptions make it possible for you to view part of the content for free. 

PS: I do understand there are a few good sources on the NET that are not subscription based. Some seem to balance the books with advertising only. (Slate is a site I enoy and is free...unless one wants added content with "Slate Plus", for which there is a charge).

Yes Wonky I get it. The free access I get from the web to the New Yorker newspaper wouldn't be possible if people did not subscribe.
And everything you just posted makes total sense. You don't need to explain the same thing over and over. Smiling

I already subscribe to the MMT But right now spending money on some other cities newspaper would be like investing in Buggies right before the first Model T was built.

and I repeat.....Your idea that everyone should pay for the long form journalism is great. If people did that instead of relying of facebook garbage Fox or CNN.. . 

But it's NEVER going to happen. Wink


RE: Join The Resistance - Big Rock - 11-21-2016

(11-21-2016, 01:02 PM)tvguy Wrote: [quote pid='382684' dateline='1479699145']
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RE: Join The Resistance - tvguy - 11-21-2016

(11-21-2016, 01:31 PM)Big Rock Wrote:
(11-21-2016, 01:02 PM)tvguy Wrote: [quote pid='382684' dateline='1479699145']
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Wink

A beautiful mind...
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Yeah solve that one LOL.


RE: Join The Resistance - Juniper - 11-21-2016

(11-21-2016, 09:27 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(11-20-2016, 11:26 PM)SFLiberal Wrote:
(11-20-2016, 01:58 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 08:07 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(11-19-2016, 07:49 PM)Valuesize Wrote: I've asked before without an answer. What are your top three favorite "fact based" news sources?

I recently saw a similar post on FB. Top answer:  InfoWars.  There you go!  America!

For the love of God, no wonder Trump got elected.

Obama was the best thing ever for Republicans.  The House, then the Senate, then the plurality of governorships, and now the Presidency.  Thanks Obama....... Laughing Crying Laughing
As always, simplistic. Truth be known, the most expert of the political pundits are still digging trying to understand why these shifts happen. Dewey/Truman, for instance. 

And Hugo, how about YOU give us examples of national publications you think are "fact based journalism".

Breitbart fan.


RE: Join The Resistance - Valuesize - 12-18-2016




RE: Join The Resistance - cletus1 - 12-19-2016

(12-18-2016, 11:48 AM)Valuesize Wrote:

That is an inspiring short speach. I am in full agreement. 

I hope that some saner people around him will keep him from doings most of the things he said he would do. 

Besides, if he gets stupid quick, he can be impeached. 

Viva la resistance.


RE: Join The Resistance - Wonky3 - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 09:07 AM)cletus1 Wrote:
(12-18-2016, 11:48 AM)Valuesize Wrote:

That is an inspiring short speach. I am in full agreement. 

I hope that some saner people around him will keep him from doings most of the things he said he would do. 

Besides, if he gets stupid quick, he can be impeached. 

Viva la resistance.
I wonder about "The Resistance".
 
The Senate will be controlled by the Republican Party. 

The Republicans in the Senate now have the option (thanks to mistakes made my the Democrats) to use the "Nuclear Option" of deciding issues with only a majority vote after a useless Democratic filibuster (and some minor rule procedures). 

And The House is controlled not only by Republicans but by a group of some 40 plus of the most in rabid members in the history of that body. Watch for them to denounce evolution, climate change, freedom FROM religon, to balance the budget on the backs of the working class and the poor, kill every social program FDR promoted, and find a place to start a war. 

Health care reform, as we know it, is dead. 

We can expect the Senate Judicary Committee (Chaired by a Republican and with a majority of Republicans) to appoint the next several (?) Supreme Court Justices. They may very well make the late Anthony Scalalia look like a flaming liberal. 

The RNC might well keep President Trump from embarrassing himself, and the party, to excess, but he will still be able to use the power of the office to run amok and foul the workings of government to at least some degree. 

As Dick Tuck said in the 60's, "The people have spoken...the bastards". 

Resist where you can, but expect a bummpy ride. 

We will recover because Trump and the "ideals" he preaches will fail. But, it will take some time. What condition the nation will be in by then is scary. But what is really scary is that this man was elected, fairly, by millions of American voters. I've yet to meet one, but they came out of the dark corners to elect this man. 

We can't allow it to happen again.


RE: Join The Resistance - Valuesize - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 09:07 AM)cletus1 Wrote:
(12-18-2016, 11:48 AM)Valuesize Wrote:

That is an inspiring short speach. I am in full agreement. 

I hope that some saner people around him will keep him from doings most of the things he said he would do. 

Besides, if he gets stupid quick, he can be impeached. 

Viva la resistance.

The full speech is over 45 min. I posted the condensed version.  Big Grin


RE: Join The Resistance - cletus1 - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 10:25 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(12-19-2016, 09:07 AM)cletus1 Wrote:
(12-18-2016, 11:48 AM)Valuesize Wrote:

That is an inspiring short speach. I am in full agreement. 

I hope that some saner people around him will keep him from doings most of the things he said he would do. 

Besides, if he gets stupid quick, he can be impeached. 

Viva la resistance.

The full speech is over 45 min. I posted the condensed version.  Big Grin
Well, I like the part you posted.  Smiling


RE: Join The Resistance - Hugo - 12-19-2016

Quote:Wonky wrote: "this man was elected, fairly, by millions of American voters. I've yet to meet one"

Bullshit.


RE: Join The Resistance - Big Rock - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 10:22 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: I've yet to meet one, but they came out of the dark corners to elect this man.

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RE: Join The Resistance - orygunluvr - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 12:30 PM)Big Rock Wrote:
(12-19-2016, 10:22 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: I've yet to meet one, but they came out of the dark corners to elect this man.

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They'll just never get over their mental disorder, WE ARE
THE RESISTANCE.


RE: Join The Resistance - Big Rock - 12-19-2016

I really don't get why the leftists (or progressives, or whatever they are) get so sanctimonious and preachy about politics. It's amusing in a strange, distorted kind of way. I'm sure that even this little post will inspire some more sanctimonious blather. Let's see...


RE: Join The Resistance - Wonky3 - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 11:39 AM)Hugo Wrote:
Quote:Wonky wrote: "this man was elected, fairly, by millions of American voters. I've yet to meet one"

Bullshit.

Wow, Hugo. 
I try to write a paragraph about "the resistance" and you take that one thought and call bullshit.
Okay.
I don't claim to have a really wide circle of friends and acquaintances but I swear that other than this fourm I've yet to meet anyone who, prior to the election, claimed to be voting for Mr. Trump. 
But facts are facts: Millions of our fellow citizens voted for him and he is our president elect. 

And I think we have elected an man who's pay grade is way below the office he must occupy. 

OL say's "We are the resistance". 

Very soon, maybe too soon, I think we will discover the folly of this decision.


RE: Join The Resistance - cletus1 - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 12:53 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(12-19-2016, 11:39 AM)Hugo Wrote:
Quote:Wonky wrote: "this man was elected, fairly, by millions of American voters. I've yet to meet one"

Bullshit.

Wow, Hugo. 
I try to write a paragraph about "the resistance" and you take that one thought and call bullshit.
Okay.
I don't claim to have a really wide circle of friends and acquaintances but I swear that other than this fourm I've yet to meet anyone who, prior to the election, claimed to be voting for Mr. Trump. 
But facts are facts: Millions of our fellow citizens voted for him and he is our president elect. 

And I think we have elected an man who's pay grade is way below the office he must occupy. 

OL say's "We are the resistance". 

Very soon, maybe too soon, I think we will discover the folly of this decision.
Wonky, I know a lot of people in Josephine County and they are either non political or Trump supporters. I have a few local friends that are liberals but they are in the minority.


RE: Join The Resistance - Hugo - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 12:53 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(12-19-2016, 11:39 AM)Hugo Wrote:
Quote:Wonky wrote: "this man was elected, fairly, by millions of American voters. I've yet to meet one"

Bullshit.

Wow, Hugo. 
I try to write a paragraph about "the resistance" and you take that one thought and call bullshit.
Okay.
I don't claim to have a really wide circle of friends and acquaintances but I swear that other than this fourm I've yet to meet anyone who, prior to the election, claimed to be voting for Mr. Trump. 
But facts are facts: Millions of our fellow citizens voted for him and he is our president elect. 

And I think we have elected an man who's pay grade is way below the office he must occupy. 

OL say's "We are the resistance". 

Very soon, maybe too soon, I think we will discover the folly of this decision.

Laughing  You only have to deny knowing me two more times, and I might qualify as Jesus Christ.....


RE: Join The Resistance - orygunluvr - 12-19-2016

(12-19-2016, 12:53 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(12-19-2016, 11:39 AM)Hugo Wrote:
Quote:Wonky wrote: "this man was elected, fairly, by millions of American voters. I've yet to meet one"

Bullshit.

Wow, Hugo. 
I try to write a paragraph about "the resistance" and you take that one thought and call bullshit.
Okay.
I don't claim to have a really wide circle of friends and acquaintances but I swear that other than this fourm I've yet to meet anyone who, prior to the election, claimed to be voting for Mr. Trump. 
But facts are facts: Millions of our fellow citizens voted for him and he is our president elect. 

And I think we have elected an man who's pay grade is way below the office he must occupy. 

OL say's "We are the resistance". 

Very soon, maybe too soon, I think we will discover the folly of this decision.
Well wonk, you guys elected a person that was way below the pay grade of the office he had to occupy, and the folly of that decision has had way to many historic records set, and not good ones. So now we get our turn, and by the looks of it we may set some good records this time around, even with the progressive liberal communist terrorist push back. Enjoy wonk, you have at least 4 more years left in you.


RE: Join The Resistance - Big Rock - 12-19-2016

Here's some impressive and inspiring resistance: