(12-20-2016, 02:05 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 02:00 PM)Hugo Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 01:48 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 10:55 AM)Big Rock Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 08:57 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: We are not obligated to read it, but it's there for those of us who may enjoy the more complete content from something we otherwise may not stumble on.

That's my only point. Forums have a tendency to devolve into echo chambers of agreement or hate fests, and I don't want to participate in either. I post content from the WSJ because it's well-written and interesting and because most people here do not have access to it (because the cost is prohibitive). I post the links because anyone can choose to pay for whatever they want to read. You can decide to buy it or not. I'm just quoting an excerpt that I think conveys the gist of an argument. I highlight the parts that I find most interesting or relevant. I don't see how that could be offensive. I try not to be offensive most of the time. Sometimes I do get rhetorically aggressive. That is almost always a mistake.

That's all.

OMG who said what you post is offensive?   I said what I thought as politely as POSSIBLY I could.


"TV....Ya Know Big rock, I'm not complaining but your posts typically look like the one above and I don't have the patience to decipher them and figure out what you are getting at.

Maybe it's just me."
 
Keep posting the way you are I don't really care. I just (silly me) thought you might want to know why I don't respond. If you don't care GREAT. It's just too bad because you are often an exception to the rabid hate filled right wingers who dominate here.
Good fucking Grief Larry says I can't handle big words OL says I'm the forum monitor and Wonky tells you to keep on posting. As if anyone said different. Even though he's the third person who wishes you would explain WTF you are trying to get at.

 I understand your reasoning so don't bother with a response.

In regards to MY comment, Jesus Christ man, get a fucking sense of humor.

I might have thought of humor if humor from you was normal.

(12-20-2016, 02:07 PM)Hugo Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 02:05 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 02:00 PM)Hugo Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 01:48 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 10:55 AM)Big Rock Wrote: That's my only point. Forums have a tendency to devolve into echo chambers of agreement or hate fests, and I don't want to participate in either. I post content from the WSJ because it's well-written and interesting and because most people here do not have access to it (because the cost is prohibitive). I post the links because anyone can choose to pay for whatever they want to read. You can decide to buy it or not. I'm just quoting an excerpt that I think conveys the gist of an argument. I highlight the parts that I find most interesting or relevant. I don't see how that could be offensive. I try not to be offensive most of the time. Sometimes I do get rhetorically aggressive. That is almost always a mistake.

That's all.

OMG who said what you post is offensive?   I said what I thought as politely as POSSIBLY I could.


"TV....Ya Know Big rock, I'm not complaining but your posts typically look like the one above and I don't have the patience to decipher them and figure out what you are getting at.

Maybe it's just me."
 
Keep posting the way you are I don't really care. I just (silly me) thought you might want to know why I don't respond. If you don't care GREAT. It's just too bad because you are often an exception to the rabid hate filled right wingers who dominate here.
Good fucking Grief Larry says I can't handle big words OL says I'm the forum monitor and Wonky tells you to keep on posting. As if anyone said different. Even though he's the third person who wishes you would explain WTF you are trying to get at.

 I understand your reasoning so don't bother with a response.

In regards to MY comment, Jesus Christ man, get a fucking sense of humor.

I might have thought of humor if humor from you was normal.

In my opinion, almost everything I ever post here is just about the funniest shit I ever heard!

(12-20-2016, 02:07 PM)Hugo Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 02:05 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 02:00 PM)Hugo Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 01:48 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 10:55 AM)Big Rock Wrote: That's my only point. Forums have a tendency to devolve into echo chambers of agreement or hate fests, and I don't want to participate in either. I post content from the WSJ because it's well-written and interesting and because most people here do not have access to it (because the cost is prohibitive). I post the links because anyone can choose to pay for whatever they want to read. You can decide to buy it or not. I'm just quoting an excerpt that I think conveys the gist of an argument. I highlight the parts that I find most interesting or relevant. I don't see how that could be offensive. I try not to be offensive most of the time. Sometimes I do get rhetorically aggressive. That is almost always a mistake.

That's all.

OMG who said what you post is offensive?   I said what I thought as politely as POSSIBLY I could.


"TV....Ya Know Big rock, I'm not complaining but your posts typically look like the one above and I don't have the patience to decipher them and figure out what you are getting at.

Maybe it's just me."
 
Keep posting the way you are I don't really care. I just (silly me) thought you might want to know why I don't respond. If you don't care GREAT. It's just too bad because you are often an exception to the rabid hate filled right wingers who dominate here.
Good fucking Grief Larry says I can't handle big words OL says I'm the forum monitor and Wonky tells you to keep on posting. As if anyone said different. Even though he's the third person who wishes you would explain WTF you are trying to get at.

 I understand your reasoning so don't bother with a response.

In regards to MY comment, Jesus Christ man, get a fucking sense of humor.

I might have thought of humor if humor from you was normal.

In my opinion, almost everything I ever post here is just about the funniest shit I ever heard!

(12-20-2016, 09:54 PM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the resistance: 


I think the resistance is going to be here for a long while. Heck, all I have to do type stuff here to be a member. 

I know some Republican politians have told Democrats to "get over it." I doubt many Democrats are going to of get over much. They remember the Republicans never got over Obama?

(12-20-2016, 11:25 PM)chuck white Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 09:54 PM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the resistance: 


I think the resistance is going to be here for a long while. Heck, all I have to do type stuff here to be a member. 

I know some Republican politians have told Democrats to "get over it." I doubt many Democrats are going to of get over much. They remember the Republicans never got over Obama?

We survived Reagan, we can survive Trump.

(12-21-2016, 10:00 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 11:25 PM)chuck white Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 09:54 PM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the resistance: 


I think the resistance is going to be here for a long while. Heck, all I have to do type stuff here to be a member. 

I know some Republican politians have told Democrats to "get over it." I doubt many Democrats are going to of get over much. They remember the Republicans never got over Obama?

We survived Reagan, we can survive Trump.

Apples/Oranges, Chuck. 
President Reagan was a decent human being, never rude, vulgar, or a frequent teller of tall lies. 
I suspect you will soon see the difference between the two.

(12-21-2016, 12:49 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 10:00 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 11:25 PM)chuck white Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 09:54 PM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the resistance: 


I think the resistance is going to be here for a long while. Heck, all I have to do type stuff here to be a member. 

I know some Republican politians have told Democrats to "get over it." I doubt many Democrats are going to of get over much. They remember the Republicans never got over Obama?

We survived Reagan, we can survive Trump.

Apples/Oranges, Chuck. 
President Reagan was a decent human being, never rude, vulgar, or a frequent teller of tall lies. 
I suspect you will soon see the difference between the two.

Except that the things a president does that actually affects us have very little to do with them being rude, vulgar or lies.

(12-21-2016, 03:07 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 12:49 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 10:00 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 11:25 PM)chuck white Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 09:54 PM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the resistance: 


I think the resistance is going to be here for a long while. Heck, all I have to do type stuff here to be a member. 

I know some Republican politians have told Democrats to "get over it." I doubt many Democrats are going to of get over much. They remember the Republicans never got over Obama?

We survived Reagan, we can survive Trump.

Apples/Oranges, Chuck. 
President Reagan was a decent human being, never rude, vulgar, or a frequent teller of tall lies. 
I suspect you will soon see the difference between the two.

Except that the things a president does that actually affects us have very little to do with them being rude, vulgar or lies.

Really.
Wait until he is rude to the a world leader with whom trade is important. 
Or grabs a lady visiting the White House by the crotch.
Or lies to Putin. (You don't want to lie to Putin!)

(12-21-2016, 05:20 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 03:07 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 12:49 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 10:00 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 11:25 PM)chuck white Wrote: We survived Reagan, we can survive Trump.

Apples/Oranges, Chuck. 
President Reagan was a decent human being, never rude, vulgar, or a frequent teller of tall lies. 
I suspect you will soon see the difference between the two.

Except that the things a president does that actually affects us have very little to do with them being rude, vulgar or lies.

Really.
Wait until he is rude to the a world leader with whom trade is important. 
Or grabs a lady visiting the White House by the crotch.
Or lies to Putin. (You don't want to lie to Putin!)

He's a jerk but not an idiot. I doubt anyone would choose to miss out on a trade deal with the USA if Trump was rude to them.
Your other examples are silly and you know it

(12-21-2016, 06:46 PM)orygunluvr Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 05:20 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 03:07 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 12:49 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(12-21-2016, 10:00 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: Apples/Oranges, Chuck. 
President Reagan was a decent human being, never rude, vulgar, or a frequent teller of tall lies. 
I suspect you will soon see the difference between the two.

Except that the things a president does that actually affects us have very little to do with them being rude, vulgar or lies.

Really.
Wait until he is rude to the a world leader with whom trade is important. 
Or grabs a lady visiting the White House by the crotch.
Or lies to Putin. (You don't want to lie to Putin!)

He's a jerk but not an idiot. I doubt anyone would choose to miss out on a trade deal with the USA if Trump was rude to them.
Your other examples are silly and you know it

We are already importing more than we are exporting so what's the worst that could happen?

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

(01-05-2017, 10:38 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

Great post! (You write that, Clete?   ) 

So, I agree with your sentiments. 

And I agree with your Topic title: Join the Resistance. 

So now what? Are you suggesting we march in downtown Grants Pass carrying placards and using bullhorns? 

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.

I pay dues to Common Cause, am thinking of paying dues to Move-on.org and I write to my political representatives (and other folks in government) from time to time. I try to stay informed by reading "long form" journalism, picking-and-choosing TV news, and listening to my good friends here at the RFV.

So...what did you have in mind? I'll resist with you, I just need to know how.

• A single parent with $75,000 in earnings, two school-age children and no child care costs would face a tax increase of around $2,440.
  
  
• A single parent with $50,000 in earnings, three school-age children and no child care costs would also face a tax increase of around $1,188.
  
  
• A married couple with $50,000 in earnings, two school-age children and no child care costs would face a tax increase of about $150.
  
  
• Other married couples would get almost no benefit.
  

(01-05-2017, 11:32 AM)cletus1 Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 10:38 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

Great post! (You write that, Clete?   ) 

So, I agree with your sentiments. 

And I agree with your Topic title: Join the Resistance. 

So now what? Are you suggesting we march in downtown Grants Pass carrying placards and using bullhorns? 

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.

I pay dues to Common Cause, am thinking of paying dues to Move-on.org and I write to my political representatives (and other folks in government) from time to time. I try to stay informed by reading "long form" journalism, picking-and-choosing TV news, and listening to my good friends here at the RFV.

So...what did you have in mind? I'll resist with you, I just need to know how.

Here is a condensed version of Trump's tax plan relative to tax changes affecting the middle class and poor. Is everone OK with this? 

I am suggesting resistance within the system like contacting your congress person and telling him or her to fight these changes. I am thinking that as soon as thousands lose their health care the mood in this country may change and even some that voted for Trump will regret the decision and oppose the hardships Trump's plan will surely cause. 

Mostly I try to find a group that has their act together with a good plan to thwart Trump and donate money to them. Marching in Grants Pass would be a waste of time. 

Tax Increases Projected Under Trump Plan


Lily Batchelder, a law professor at NYU and visiting fellow at the Tax Policy Center, says Donald Trump's plan would boost taxes for many families, with some of the largest increases applying to single-parent families "because of the repeal of the head of household filing status and personal exemptions."

• A single parent with $75,000 in earnings, two school-age children and no child care costs would face a tax increase of around $2,440.
  
  
• A single parent with $50,000 in earnings, three school-age children and no child care costs would also face a tax increase of around $1,188.
  
  
• A married couple with $50,000 in earnings, two school-age children and no child care costs would face a tax increase of about $150.
  
  
• Other married couples would get almost no benefit.
  

Source: Tax Policy Center

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/13/501739277/who-benefits-from-donald-trumps-tax-plan

(01-05-2017, 10:38 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

Great post! (You write that, Clete?   ) 

So, I agree with your sentiments. 

And I agree with your Topic title: Join the Resistance. 

So now what? Are you suggesting we march in downtown Grants Pass carrying placards and using bullhorns? 

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.

I pay dues to Common Cause, am thinking of paying dues to Move-on.org and I write to my political representatives (and other folks in government) from time to time. I try to stay informed by reading "long form" journalism, picking-and-choosing TV news, and listening to my good friends here at the RFV.

So...what did you have in mind? I'll resist with you, I just need to know how.

(01-05-2017, 02:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 10:38 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

Great post! (You write that, Clete?   ) 

So, I agree with your sentiments. 

And I agree with your Topic title: Join the Resistance. 

So now what? Are you suggesting we march in downtown Grants Pass carrying placards and using bullhorns? 

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.

I pay dues to Common Cause, am thinking of paying dues to Move-on.org and I write to my political representatives (and other folks in government) from time to time. I try to stay informed by reading "long form" journalism, picking-and-choosing TV news, and listening to my good friends here at the RFV.

So...what did you have in mind? I'll resist with you, I just need to know how.

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.


I see what you mean but Isn't advertising that you do support our troops a way of supporting our troops? Awareness and all that?

And I think Cletus's ideas and anyone else who want to "resist or demonstrate or march is simply going to reinforce the rights idea. That all democrats are a bunch of whining losers.

Have you ever met someone who always had an excuse whenever they lost any kind of game?

(01-05-2017, 02:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 02:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 10:38 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

Great post! (You write that, Clete?   ) 

So, I agree with your sentiments. 

And I agree with your Topic title: Join the Resistance. 

So now what? Are you suggesting we march in downtown Grants Pass carrying placards and using bullhorns? 

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.

I pay dues to Common Cause, am thinking of paying dues to Move-on.org and I write to my political representatives (and other folks in government) from time to time. I try to stay informed by reading "long form" journalism, picking-and-choosing TV news, and listening to my good friends here at the RFV.

So...what did you have in mind? I'll resist with you, I just need to know how.

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.


I see what you mean but Isn't advertising that you do support our troops a way of supporting our troops? Awareness and all that?

And I think Cletus's ideas and anyone else who want to "resist or demonstrate or march is simply going to reinforce the rights idea. That all democrats are a bunch of whining losers.

Have you ever met someone who always had an excuse whenever they lost any kind of game?

First of all, if want to "Support The Troops" do something. See what the local National Guard families need...many live on the margins while the spouse is away. Vist a VA hospital and make a personal relationship with a wounded Vet who mght need some company and maybe money for personal things. Write to our two Democratic Senators and let them know many of our VA facilities stink...literally. 

And Democrats who demonstrate "when all else fails" are not "whinning losers". It would take grievous acts of the government to get me out on the streets, but I can envision is happening. And Trump and his administration might just be the bunch to make things so intolerable that demonstrations are necessary. Let's hope not.

(01-05-2017, 03:06 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 02:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 02:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:

(01-05-2017, 10:38 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:

(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)cletus1 Wrote: I am wondering if I need to wait until Donald Trump does something really bad or if I can just assume he will. I think am now firmly in the camp of the resistance. I believe Trump will be a disaster for middle class and poor Americans. 

I am beginning to see some organized real resistance. Bernie Sanders has called for rallies on January 15th to protest President Elect Trumps budget, privatizing Medicare and giving the wealthy more tax cuts. Also, women have started a group called "Indivisible;" if this group is successful, hundreds of thousands of people will march on Washington on January 21st the day after a Trump is inaugurated. 

If the anti Trump movement gets going and is even party successful, Trump will accomplish very little without a fight unless his proposals make sense. If Trump does cut Medicare, Medicaid and gut Obamacare, all you Trump zombies can clap approval as you pay out your ass in taxes and hospital bills while the wealthy get real Trump love. Think about it taxed enough already folks.

Great post! (You write that, Clete?   ) 

So, I agree with your sentiments. 

And I agree with your Topic title: Join the Resistance. 

So now what? Are you suggesting we march in downtown Grants Pass carrying placards and using bullhorns? 

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.

I pay dues to Common Cause, am thinking of paying dues to Move-on.org and I write to my political representatives (and other folks in government) from time to time. I try to stay informed by reading "long form" journalism, picking-and-choosing TV news, and listening to my good friends here at the RFV.

So...what did you have in mind? I'll resist with you, I just need to know how.

I come to this because of past examples of slogans not acted on. I'm thinking of all the bumper stickers I've seen asking us to "Support Our Troops". I've often wondered just how many folks did anything except put the sticker on the bumper.


I see what you mean but Isn't advertising that you do support our troops a way of supporting our troops? Awareness and all that?

And I think Cletus's ideas and anyone else who want to "resist or demonstrate or march is simply going to reinforce the rights idea. That all democrats are a bunch of whining losers.

Have you ever met someone who always had an excuse whenever they lost any kind of game?

First of all, if want to "Support The Troops" do something. See what the local National Guard families need...many live on the margins while the spouse is away. Vist a VA hospital and make a personal relationship with a wounded Vet who mght need some company and maybe money for personal things. Write to our two Democratic Senators and let them know many of our VA facilities stink...literally. 

And Democrats who demonstrate "when all else fails" are not "whinning losers". It would take grievous acts of the government to get me out on the streets, but I can envision is happening. And Trump and his administration might just be the bunch to make things so intolerable that demonstrations are necessary. Let's hope not.

LOL cool your jets Wonky of course doing the things you mentioned are better than a bumper sticker.
My point was a bumper sticker doesn't mean one is a hypocrite if they DON'T do any of those things.
It's just a suggestion to others.

And Democrats who demonstrate "when all else fails" are not "whinning losers".
but I can envision it happening

It's already happened for Christs sake. And yeah protesting who won an election is exactly whining.