At Least 50 Killed in Orlando Nightclub Mass Shooting
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(06-13-2016, 05:35 PM)Scrapper Wrote: I'm not turning in my guns... and so far, no one has asked me too.  How many years have you asswipes been whining about Obama coming for our guns?!?!  Yeah, still have 'em!

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(06-13-2016, 06:50 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 05:35 PM)Scrapper Wrote: I'm not turning in my guns... and so far, no one has asked me too.  How many years have you asswipes been whining about Obama coming for our guns?!?!  Yeah, still have 'em!

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You aren't right. Then. Now. Ever.

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#63
(06-13-2016, 06:52 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:50 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 05:35 PM)Scrapper Wrote: I'm not turning in my guns... and so far, no one has asked me too.  How many years have you asswipes been whining about Obama coming for our guns?!?!  Yeah, still have 'em!

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WHEN they "ask" you to, will you?  If not, will you admit I was right?
You aren't right.  Then. Now. Ever.

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I will try one more time.  When they ban YOUR weapon for private ownership, will you comply?
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(06-13-2016, 04:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 03:32 PM)SFLiberal Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 03:13 PM)orygunluvr Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 02:39 PM)SFLiberal Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 08:38 AM)cletus1 Wrote: One thing that bothers me about this mass murder is how long it took the police SWAT team to raid the club. Did the shooter really have 3 hours to kill all those people? 

Are the Orlando cops a bunch of whimps? Do you realize how long 3 hours is when an active shooter is killing people? The following link is a Fox News article that reports cops became aware of the situation at a little after 2 am and went in around 5 am. I selected the Fox News article so that Hugo will read it. 



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/flo...tclub.html

I agree with you.  The police are trained for active shooter incidents.  Since Columbine the average police patrolman gets this active shooter training for the purpose of engaging an active shooter and not having to wait for SWAT.  So why did they wait?  I wonder how many victims bled to death or were shot and killed waiting those three hours for SWAT to act?

Most cops don't know what to do in an active shooter situation. I have 2 friends that train cops in active shooter situations and live fire exercises, they very rarely have anything good to say about the trainees. A few years ago one of my friends said he had 2 guys that absolutely refused to go in during live fire exercises.

Are they as efficient as SWAT?  No, but they do have the training to engage an active shooter.  It beats waiting for SWAT to arrive, and most departments have SWAT officers on patrol and they are part of the mix when confronting an active shooter.  The days of waiting for SWAT was supposed to be long gone, apparently Orlando is behind the times.

Holy crapola I agree with you LOL.

Yep! Probably the first time we all agreed on anything. 

I was thinking that the headline "The worst mass shooting in Ameican history" doesn't tell the whole story. It makes people think this terrorist was some kind of super killer. He is not. He is a super scum bag that racked up those murders partly because law enforcement did not have an good plan to respond.
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#66
Firemen rush into burning buildings to save people, there is a reason they don't wait 3 hours for someone else to do it.
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(06-13-2016, 08:04 PM)GPnative Wrote: Firemen rush into burning buildings to save people, there is a reason they don't wait 3 hours for someone else to do it.

Burning buildings are a lot safer than guns and bullets.
(unless there is ammo in the burning building) Smiling
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#68
Quote:Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/o...sma/nrfwW/
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(06-13-2016, 08:04 PM)GPnative Wrote: Firemen rush into burning buildings to save people, there is a reason they don't wait 3 hours for someone else to do it.

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(06-13-2016, 09:01 PM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/o...sma/nrfwW/

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/06/report-...-pulse-ga/
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#71
(06-13-2016, 06:54 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:52 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:50 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 05:35 PM)Scrapper Wrote: I'm not turning in my guns... and so far, no one has asked me too.  How many years have you asswipes been whining about Obama coming for our guns?!?!  Yeah, still have 'em!

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WHEN they "ask" you to, will you?  If not, will you admit I was right?
You aren't right.  Then. Now. Ever.

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I will try one more time.  When they ban YOUR weapon for private ownership, will you comply?

I will take this as your answer, since you are ignoring the easy question.  And since your answer is, you are not turning in your guns, you and I are in 100% agreement.  Whether you like it or not.
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#72
(06-14-2016, 07:56 AM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:54 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:52 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:50 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 05:35 PM)Scrapper Wrote: I'm not turning in my guns... and so far, no one has asked me too.  How many years have you asswipes been whining about Obama coming for our guns?!?!  Yeah, still have 'em!

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WHEN they "ask" you to, will you?  If not, will you admit I was right?
You aren't right.  Then. Now. Ever.

Posted via Tapatalk

I will try one more time.  When they ban YOUR weapon for private ownership, will you comply?

I will take this as your answer, since you are ignoring the easy question.  And since your answer is, you are not turning in your guns, you and I are in 100% agreement.  Whether you like it or not.
Jesus. Read what you want into what ever you want, it doesn't make you right. The reason I haven't turned in my guns is because I don't have to... and I think the Chicken Littles that keep whining that they're coming for our guns will still be whining long after I'm gone and my guns have been handed down to my children.

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#73
So will you demokkkratikkk socialists choose human rights, i.e. homosexual, women, religious, or do you choose sharia compliance?
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#74
(06-14-2016, 08:20 AM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-14-2016, 07:56 AM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:54 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:52 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:50 PM)Hugo Wrote: WHEN they "ask" you to, will you?  If not, will you admit I was right?
You aren't right.  Then. Now. Ever.

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I will try one more time.  When they ban YOUR weapon for private ownership, will you comply?

I will take this as your answer, since you are ignoring the easy question.  And since your answer is, you are not turning in your guns, you and I are in 100% agreement.  Whether you like it or not.
Jesus. Read what you want into what ever you want, it doesn't make you right.  The reason I haven't turned in my guns is because I don't have to... and I think the Chicken Littles that keep whining that they're coming for our guns will still be whining long after I'm gone and my guns have been handed down to my children.

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Jesus..... all you have to do is answer the question.
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#75
(06-14-2016, 10:42 AM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-14-2016, 08:20 AM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-14-2016, 07:56 AM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:54 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(06-13-2016, 06:52 PM)Scrapper Wrote: You aren't right.  Then. Now. Ever.

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I will try one more time.  When they ban YOUR weapon for private ownership, will you comply?

I will take this as your answer, since you are ignoring the easy question.  And since your answer is, you are not turning in your guns, you and I are in 100% agreement.  Whether you like it or not.
Jesus. Read what you want into what ever you want, it doesn't make you right.  The reason I haven't turned in my guns is because I don't have to... and I think the Chicken Littles that keep whining that they're coming for our guns will still be whining long after I'm gone and my guns have been handed down to my children.

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Jesus..... all you have to do is answer the question.

She can't, pictures do much better, look how much response mine get.
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#76
So the guy and his wife were reported to the fbi back in april by Disney as possibly casing it for an attack, looks like gun free zones are all the rage not only with demokkkratikkks but moslem killers as well.
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#77
Oh come on, the guy is most likely a repressed homosexual that hates himself. He could never come out especially as a Moslem. He hates what he can't have. Sorta like the queer Republicans that try to pass anti gay laws after they tap the floors in toilet stalls at airports.
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(06-14-2016, 12:41 PM)orygunluvr Wrote: So the guy and his wife were reported to the fbi back in april by Disney as possibly casing it for an attack, looks like gun free zones are all the rage not only with demokkkratikkks but moslem killers as well.

If I was there with a hand gun in my pocket, I would have shot the son of a bitch. Of course, I would not likely be in a bar like that. I am all about arming the LBGT community so the can defend themselves against crazy people and Republicans.  Rolling Eyes
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#79
(06-14-2016, 02:46 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(06-14-2016, 12:41 PM)orygunluvr Wrote: So the guy and his wife were reported to the fbi back in april by Disney as possibly casing it for an attack, looks like gun free zones are all the rage not only with demokkkratikkks but moslem killers as well.

If I was there with a hand gun in my pocket, I would have shot the son of a bitch. Of course, I would not likely be in a bar like that. I am all about arming the LBGT community so the can defend themselves against crazy people and Republicans.  Rolling Eyes

Clete, you can't kill these rabid few Republicans who have drunk the tea. They are imperviious to bullets thanks to a secret potion the NRA supplies. But they fall over dead when hit with valid information. 

Makes me wonder what will happen with congresman Paul Ryan and other Republicans who have found themselves caught in this improbable trap that now may be impossible for them to squirm out from under. 

And now we are in desperate need of leadership that can fight this "new war" of sad freaks who are willing to kill us in bunches in the name of a cause they don't even understand. 

Who we vote for is going to make a difference. Who we continue to support and how we react to the coming challenges will be be decisive. 

History shows us clearly that this would not be a good time to allow a demagog to gain political control. 

Congressman Ryan, come home! We need you! Take control of That Convention and lead the Grand Old Party back to it's good and basic foundatons, the party of Lincoln, of Ike, and some pretty fair senators we have sent from Oregon.
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(06-14-2016, 02:46 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(06-14-2016, 12:41 PM)orygunluvr Wrote: So the guy and his wife were reported to the fbi back in april by Disney as possibly casing it for an attack, looks like gun free zones are all the rage not only with demokkkratikkks but moslem killers as well.

If I was there with a hand gun in my pocket, I would have shot the son of a bitch. Of course, I would not likely be in a bar like that. I am all about arming the LBGT community so the can defend themselves against crazy people and Republicans.  Rolling Eyes


The shooter was a democrat, just saying, crazy is crazy
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