Hey Democrats!
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Think we don't need to join the local and state Democratic party and pay our dues? Maybe attend some meetings and discuss issues. Volunteer for some office work. Man the phones. Make coffee. 

Maybe we should rethink that. 

Froma Harrop's column in todays (2/6) Mail Tribune might be a wake up call. 


"But whether the politics are normal or abnormal, it’s a truism that you can’t win it if you’re not in it. In too many places, Democrats are perilously close to becoming a PINO, party in name only. Opportunity knocks, but you can’t open the door if you don’t get out of bed."

http://medfordmailtribune.or.newsmemory....VNZWhxTXlo=

EDIT: And yet again the link didn't work:

Many Democrats hope the massive demonstrations against Donald Trump will evolve into a Democratic tea party. Sloppy rollouts of incoherent policy dressed in malevolence can rile people up.

But Democrats must first understand what made the tea party powerful. Its great success came not from the members’ anger but from the ability to turn that anger into a show of force on Election Day.

Tea party people vote. They vote in midterm congressional elections. They vote for state reps and for mayors and for judges. They show up.

Democratic constituencies famously disappear in off-presidential years. That said, the party did take control of Congress in the 2006 midterms. To get there in 2018, though, it must first replace the party’s somnolent leadership.

Given the Democrats’ generally dismal performance in the recent congressional races, it was surprising how easily Nancy Pelosi retained her post as House minority leader. She had a competent challenger in Tim Ryan, who was just re-elected in an industrial Ohio district that Trump handily won.

For evidence of the national party’s failure, look no further than Texas’ 7th Congressional District. Hillary Clinton won the 7th, which covers wealthy parts of Houston and its suburbs and has been trending Democratic. But the Democratic candidate for Congress, James Cargas, lost after receiving virtually no support from national Democrats.

Cargas had only $62,000 to spend on his campaign against incumbent John Culberson’s $1.9 million. He still managed to pull in 44 percent of the vote. Imagine if the national party had actually tried.

Some state Democratic organizations have all but flatlined.

In the pivotal state of Wisconsin, the party “couldn’t be bothered to recruit a candidate to take on conservative state Supreme Court Justice Annette Ziegler,” writes editorial page editor David D. Haynes in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. And in one of the state’s most Democratic counties, it failed to find people to challenge Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s circuit court appointees.

Though Democrats’ gloom may lighten at panoramic shots of throngs protesting Trump’s latest outrage, the party must recognize that crowds, in and of themselves, don’t necessarily translate into votes. Trump had crowds but lost the popular count to Clinton by millions of votes — and so, for that matter, did Bernie Sanders.

If these marches lead to grass-roots organizing, that could be a swell thing for Democrats. But as mere spectacle, protests can grow old. They attract vendors of narrow ethnic, gender and other identity interests uninterested in big-tent politics. They occasionally provide a stage for anti-social behavior. And they inconvenience motorists, businesses and locals in their path.

The good news for Democrats is that they have new blood clamoring to run for office. Interest is especially high in the 22 districts that voted for Clinton but elected Republicans to Congress. Many are in former Republican Sun Belt strongholds in Arizona, Texas, Florida and Southern California.

With the public growing increasingly restive over Trump’s disruptive antics, it’s possible that Republicans will fix the Trump problem themselves. It is not the mission here to discuss what Republicans could do about Trump, but there are various tools at their disposal.

So it’s early for Democrats to count on Republicans’ letting Trump continue his reckless joy ride to a disastrous conclusion. For the good of the country, none of us should want that ending.
But whether the politics are normal or abnormal, it’s a truism that you can’t win it if you’re not in it. In too many places, Democrats are perilously close to becoming a PINO, party in name only. Opportunity knocks, but you can’t open the door if you don’t get out of bed.[i] — Follow Froma Harrop on Twitter @Froma-Harrop. She can be reached at fharrop@gmail. com.[/i]
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#2
Had to wash my hands after reading that BS.
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(02-06-2017, 05:02 PM)Wolfdog Wrote: Had to wash my hands after reading that BS.

So good to hear from you again.  Smiling

Did you wash your hands after the Koch brothers gave the GOP congressional committee millions to elect local and state Republicans? They did good work: Look at a map of Republican elected officials across the country. Nothing wrong with funding and supporting The Party.

But, if it's Democrats, you need to wash your hands of that BS? 

Many of us Democrats feel Mr. Trump's election will spur freedom loving people (read: Democrats  Razz  ) to be more active in energizing our base. "The gift that keeps on giving".

We will disagree. I'll never suggest YOUR political feelings are BS and never be so crude as to suggest I need to wash my hands. Why hell, some of my best friends are Republicans.  Laughing
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#4
Not mine.
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(02-07-2017, 09:14 AM)bbqboy Wrote: Not mine.

you don't have any friends
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(02-07-2017, 11:01 AM)GPnative Wrote:
(02-07-2017, 09:14 AM)bbqboy Wrote: Not mine.

you don't have any friends

False.
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(02-07-2017, 11:08 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(02-07-2017, 11:01 AM)GPnative Wrote:
(02-07-2017, 09:14 AM)bbqboy Wrote: Not mine.

you don't have any friends

False.

RVF: The place where dialog goes to die.  Wink
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#8
Hey bbqboy, how ya doin buddy. Yep he is a friend,
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#9
(02-08-2017, 12:01 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: Hey bbqboy, how ya doin buddy. Yep he is a friend,

Did he block you Private Message feature?  Wink
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#10
(02-08-2017, 12:01 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: Hey bbqboy, how ya doin buddy. Yep he is a friend,

Me too. 

I have Republican friends. If you want friends in GP you willingly accept Republicans. Big Grin There are some liberal Democrats here, I just don't know many.
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(02-08-2017, 01:21 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 12:01 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: Hey bbqboy, how ya doin buddy. Yep he is a friend,

Me too. 

I have Republican friends. If you want friends in GP you willingly accept Republicans. Big Grin There are some liberal Democrats here, I just don't know many.

I don't know if my dog is a Republican or a Democrat, he's about my only friend.
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#12
Meanwhile in Seattle; we have Socialist.

You can have one Seattle Socialist and I will take ten Grants Pass Democrats.
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(02-08-2017, 08:35 PM)Oscar Wrote: Meanwhile in Seattle; we have Socialist.

You can have one Seattle Socialist and I will take ten Grants Pass Democrats.

Quote:
Quote:Kshama has made things happen that never would have happened before.
Now Kshama is tackling head-on the crisis of skyrocketing rents by fighting for rent control, for a Tenants’ Bill of Rights, and for the city to build thousands of high-quality apartments rented at below-market rates. She is working to fully fund a world-class public transit system and implement Municipal Broadband as an alternative to the slow and expensive Comcast and Centurylink monopolies.
As a representative of working people, Kshama does not take a penny in corporate cash. While the rest of the City Council pays themselves $120,000/year, Councilmember Sawant takes only the average worker’s wage and donates the remainder to a Solidarity Fund to help build social justice movements.


I see why your worried.
Laughing
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(02-07-2017, 11:01 AM)GPnative Wrote:
(02-07-2017, 09:14 AM)bbqboy Wrote: Not mine.

you don't have any friends
Actually, he does.
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(02-08-2017, 08:48 PM)chuck white Wrote: I see why your worried.
Laughing
Here one of the reason I might move back to Grants Pass.

I will trade whoever is the mayor of Grants Pass for Seattle's mayor at anytime. Seattle politicians are so crooked they make Grants Pass politicians look straight. Seattle has become Social Justice Warrior HQ. You know what? These SJWs are my customers and co-workers! Twitch
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(02-08-2017, 09:22 PM)Oscar Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 08:48 PM)chuck white Wrote: I see why your worried.
Laughing
Here one of the reason I might move back to Grants Pass.

I will trade whoever is the mayor of Grants Pass for Seattle's mayor at anytime. Seattle politicians are so crooked they make Grants Pass politicians look straight. Seattle has become Social Justice Warrior HQ. You know what? These SJWs are my customers and co-workers!  Twitch

Probably a sanctuary city too.
Do you have anybody who walks ducks down the street on a leash?
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(02-08-2017, 09:25 PM)chuck white Wrote: Probably a sanctuary city too.
Do you have anybody who walks ducks down the street on a leash?

Sanctuary City? Seattle, yes it is.

We do have signs in parks that read: No Pets, no dogs, no cats no pigs! If crime happens in a park the SPD cannot respond to the crime. Come on! No Pigs! Get the joke?

There is a joke about Ed Murray: A parody of the theme song to the 1960s TV show Mr. Ed

A Horse is a Horse of course, of course
And nobody can talk to a horse, of course
Seattle has own talking horse's *beep*
That is, of course, unless that horse's *beep*
is the famous Mayor Mr. Ed!

Go straight to the source and ask the horse's *beep*
He'll give the answer that the Socialist will endorse
He's always on a steady Socialist course
Talk to the famous Mayor Mr. Ed!

People in Seattle Yakkity yak a streak
and waste your time of day
But Mayor Mr. Ed will never speak
Unless the Socialist pay him to speak

Never heard of a talking horse's *beep*?

Will Listen to this!

I'm Mayor Mr. Ed!
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(02-08-2017, 09:56 PM)Oscar Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 09:25 PM)chuck white Wrote: Probably a sanctuary city too.
Do you have anybody who walks ducks down the street on a leash?

Sanctuary City? Seattle, yes it is.

We do have signs in parks that read: No Pets, no dogs, no cats no pigs! If crime happens in a park the SPD cannot respond to the crime. Come on! No Pigs! Get the joke?

There is a joke about Ed Murray: A parody of the theme song to the 1960s TV show Mr. Ed

A Horse is a Horse of course, of course
And nobody can talk to a horse, of course
Seattle has own talking horse's *beep*
That is, of course, unless that horse's *beep*
is the famous Mayor Mr. Ed!

Go straight to the source and ask the horse's *beep*
He'll give the answer that the Socialist will endorse
He's always on a steady Socialist course
Talk to the famous Mayor Mr. Ed!

People in Seattle Yakkity yak a streak
and waste your time of day
But Mayor Mr. Ed will never speak
Unless the Socialist pay him to speak

Never heard of a talking horse's *beep*?

Will Listen to this!

I'm Mayor Mr. Ed!

Laughing Laughing Laughing
I love parody songs
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(02-08-2017, 09:22 PM)Oscar Wrote:
(02-08-2017, 08:48 PM)chuck white Wrote: I see why your worried.
Laughing
Here one of the reason I might move back to Grants Pass.

I will trade whoever is the mayor of Grants Pass for Seattle's mayor at anytime. Seattle politicians are so crooked they make Grants Pass politicians look straight. Seattle has become Social Justice Warrior HQ. You know what? These SJWs are my customers and co-workers!  Twitch

Well Oscar my Gremlin friend, I don't care to read this alt-right news with a twist site right now, but do sometimes. My question would be, do the folks that take advantage of something like this get access to or knowledge about ways to get help with their problems? I would hope so and if even just a few get help it would be great.
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(02-08-2017, 10:30 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Well Oscar my Gremlin friend, I don't care to read this alt-right news with a twist site right now, but do sometimes. My question would be, do the folks that take advantage of something like this get access to or knowledge about ways to get help with their problems? I would hope so and if even just a few get help it would be great.

I just usually laugh at Seattle Politicians. You have to. Those city leader will drive you nuts. Then I vote against them. That all I can do.
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