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[Valuesize]

They look like Pterodactyls. They are pure evil. I guess I did not need those Spanish lessons afterall. I downloaded google translate and it works great. 

I think I will spend a day in Patzacauro. The city has been inhabited since 1320. The place has maintained its colonial look and there are lots of cool sites including some ruins. Report back later.

This looks like it would be a cool place to see. It doesn't seem likely you can get very close though as there are no people in the photo. 

[cletus1]

They look like Pterodactyls. They are pure evil. I guess I did not need those Spanish lessons afterall. I downloaded google translate and it works great. 

I think I will spend a day in Patzacauro. The city has been inhabited since 1320. The place has maintained its colonial look and there are lots of cool sites including some ruins. Report back later.

This looks like it would be a cool place to see. It doesn't seem likely you can get very close though as there are no people in the photo. 

I'm mostly interested in the architecture and looking at historical sites. The ruins might be a side visit. I will spend more time in the cantina then there.

[tvguy]

They look like Pterodactyls. They are pure evil. I guess I did not need those Spanish lessons afterall. I downloaded google translate and it works great. 

I think I will spend a day in Patzacauro. The city has been inhabited since 1320. The place has maintained its colonial look and there are lots of cool sites including some ruins. Report back later.

This looks like it would be a cool place to see. It doesn't seem likely you can get very close though as there are no people in the photo. 

That's cuz they're all dead you big dummy  


 Yeah I thinks it's very interesting also. I was reading about it and it looks like you can walk around the place. Here's a link to info from people who visited the site.

[cletus1]

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My friends from Grants Pass hanging with us in Zihuatanejo.

[cletus1]

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Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

[Valuesize]

Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

What's in the bags that look like a premixed coleslaw pack?

[Wonky3]

Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

What's in the bags that look like a premixed coleslaw pack?

It's a premix coleslaw pack. 

[Scrapper]

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Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

I could spend a small fortune there!  I love fresh fruits and veggies!  Those look delish!

[Valuesize]

Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

What's in the bags that look like a premixed coleslaw pack?

It's a premix coleslaw pack. 

 Well then what is the white one, Jicama?

[Wonky3]

Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

What's in the bags that look like a premixed coleslaw pack?

It's a premix coleslaw pack. 

 Well then what is the white one, Jicama?

No, Jicama is a whole differnt Island. 

[cletus1]

Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

What's in the bags that look like a premixed coleslaw pack?

That's a salad mix that saves you money. Carrots jicama lettuce.

[cletus1]

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Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

I could spend a small fortune there!  I love fresh fruits and veggies!  Those look delish!

Then you will be disappointed, the produce is inexpensive. Everything but mangoes are in season. When mangoes are in season (May and June) you can get 8 or even 10 for 10 pesos which is currently 50 cents, or you can just pick them up off the streets and parks; mango trees are everywhere. Mango margaritas and every other kind of tropical drink is available. I think they must can or freeze mango pulp. The guavas are in season, so many Island style drinks taste like Hawaiian Punch. 

[Wonky3]

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Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

I could spend a small fortune there!  I love fresh fruits and veggies!  Those look delish!

Then you will be disappointed, the produce is inexpensive. Everything but mangoes are in season. When mangoes are in season (May and June) you can get 8 or even 10 for 10 pesos which is currently 50 cents, or you can just pick them up off the streets and parks; mango trees are everywhere. Mango margaritas and every other kind of tropical drink is available. I think they must can or freeze mango pulp. The guavas are in season, so many Island style drinks taste like Hawaiian Punch. 

All relative: If one is making 2 bucks a day, produce is expensive. 

[cletus1]

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Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

I could spend a small fortune there!  I love fresh fruits and veggies!  Those look delish!

Then you will be disappointed, the produce is inexpensive. Everything but mangoes are in season. When mangoes are in season (May and June) you can get 8 or even 10 for 10 pesos which is currently 50 cents, or you can just pick them up off the streets and parks; mango trees are everywhere. Mango margaritas and every other kind of tropical drink is available. I think they must can or freeze mango pulp. The guavas are in season, so many Island style drinks taste like Hawaiian Punch. 

All relative: If one is making 2 bucks a day, produce is expensive. 

You must have Mexico confused with India. Have you ever been to Mexico?

[Wonky3]

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Fresh fruit year round. This area grows coconuts, mangos, papayas, bananas and just about everything. Avocados are grown in a area near here in large farms mostly for the US and Canada.

I could spend a small fortune there!  I love fresh fruits and veggies!  Those look delish!

Then you will be disappointed, the produce is inexpensive. Everything but mangoes are in season. When mangoes are in season (May and June) you can get 8 or even 10 for 10 pesos which is currently 50 cents, or you can just pick them up off the streets and parks; mango trees are everywhere. Mango margaritas and every other kind of tropical drink is available. I think they must can or freeze mango pulp. The guavas are in season, so many Island style drinks taste like Hawaiian Punch. 

All relative: If one is making 2 bucks a day, produce is expensive. 

You must have Mexico confused with India. Have you ever been to Mexico?

Nope. but looking at the exchange rate, I'd guess a working guy in Mexico is struggling to by those veggies. 

Mexican Peso1 MXN = 0.0491812 USD

US Dollar1 USD = 20.3330 MXN

Though not up to date, here's a look at wage rates:

Mexico Average Daily Wages  2000-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

Wages in Mexico decreased to 316.57 MXN/Day in September from 320.85 MXN/Day in August of 2016. Wages in Mexico averaged 226.90 MXN/Day from 2000 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 321.77 MXN/Day in July of 2016 and a record low of 129.28 MXN/Day in February of 2000.

[cletus1]

I could spend a small fortune there!  I love fresh fruits and veggies!  Those look delish!

Then you will be disappointed, the produce is inexpensive. Everything but mangoes are in season. When mangoes are in season (May and June) you can get 8 or even 10 for 10 pesos which is currently 50 cents, or you can just pick them up off the streets and parks; mango trees are everywhere. Mango margaritas and every other kind of tropical drink is available. I think they must can or freeze mango pulp. The guavas are in season, so many Island style drinks taste like Hawaiian Punch. 

All relative: If one is making 2 bucks a day, produce is expensive. 

You must have Mexico confused with India. Have you ever been to Mexico?

Nope. but looking at the exchange rate, I'd guess a working guy in Mexico is struggling to by those veggies. 

Mexican Peso1 MXN = 0.0491812 USD

US Dollar1 USD = 20.3330 MXN

Though not up to date, here's a look at wage rates:

Mexico Average Daily Wages  2000-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

Wages in Mexico decreased to 316.57 MXN/Day in September from 320.85 MXN/Day in August of 2016. Wages in Mexico averaged 226.90 MXN/Day from 2000 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 321.77 MXN/Day in July of 2016 and a record low of 129.28 MXN/Day in February of 2000.

Then you would guess wrong. Amazing what you can find on the internet that tells you nothing, or that gives you information that can be misinterpreted and that doesn't help you understand what is going on here. 

If the exchange rate is 20 pesos to the dollar, and I can buy fresh produce from 8 to 20 pesos per kilo and I make make 300 to 500 pesos per day then I am doing just fine. I don't see anyone in this area making much less than that. Maybe some peasants elsewhere are, but not here. "The Mexicans are poor" is a tired old stereotype that doesn't represent modern Mexico. You really need to get out of Medford. 

[tvguy]

Then you will be disappointed, the produce is inexpensive. Everything but mangoes are in season. When mangoes are in season (May and June) you can get 8 or even 10 for 10 pesos which is currently 50 cents, or you can just pick them up off the streets and parks; mango trees are everywhere. Mango margaritas and every other kind of tropical drink is available. I think they must can or freeze mango pulp. The guavas are in season, so many Island style drinks taste like Hawaiian Punch. 

All relative: If one is making 2 bucks a day, produce is expensive. 

You must have Mexico confused with India. Have you ever been to Mexico?

Nope. but looking at the exchange rate, I'd guess a working guy in Mexico is struggling to by those veggies. 

Mexican Peso1 MXN = 0.0491812 USD

US Dollar1 USD = 20.3330 MXN

Though not up to date, here's a look at wage rates:

Mexico Average Daily Wages  2000-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

Wages in Mexico decreased to 316.57 MXN/Day in September from 320.85 MXN/Day in August of 2016. Wages in Mexico averaged 226.90 MXN/Day from 2000 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 321.77 MXN/Day in July of 2016 and a record low of 129.28 MXN/Day in February of 2000.

Then you would guess wrong. Amazing what you can find on the internet that tells you nothing, or that gives you information that can be misinterpreted and that doesn't help you understand what is going on here. 

If the exchange rate is 20 pesos to the dollar, and I can buy fresh produce from 8 to 20 pesos per kilo and I make make 300 to 500 pesos per day then I am doing just fine. I don't see anyone in this area making much less than that. Maybe some peasants elsewhere are, but not here. "The Mexicans are poor" is a tired old stereotype that doesn't represent modern Mexico. You really need to get out of Medford. 

If wages are NOT low in Mexico why do businesses want to move there? to get cheap mangos?

[Valuesize]

If wages are NOT low in Mexico why do businesses want to move there? to get cheap mangos?

I thought I heard one of the politicians on the news say factory workers earn an average of about $2.50 an hour in Mexico. I found this regarding Carrier workers.


MONTERREY, Mexico -- Carrier employees in Mexico will make an average of $3 per hour, $6 per hour if you combine salary and benefits. 

So what can one get for $3 in Monterrey? Not much as RTV6's Rafael Sanchez found out while shopping at a corner store across the street from some Carrier plants on the west side of Monterrey. 

He went to the store with 50 pesos, the equivalent of about $3, which is what Carrier workers will make in Monterrey without benefits. With that money, he was able to buy milk for 27 pesos. He could not buy a loaf of bread without going over the 50 pesos. So, if workers in Monterrey want to buy bread, a Pepsi, milk and eggs, they would have to work at least two hours, and that's if they make $6 per hour with benefits. 

More: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local...e-not-much




It appears stores charge more in towns where there are workers that are able to pay more. 

[tvguy]

If wages are NOT low in Mexico why do businesses want to move there? to get cheap mangos?

I thought I heard one of the politicians on the news say factory workers earn an average of about $2.50 an hour in Mexico. I found this regarding Carrier workers.


MONTERREY, Mexico -- Carrier employees in Mexico will make an average of $3 per hour, $6 per hour if you combine salary and benefits. 

So what can one get for $3 in Monterrey? Not much as RTV6's Rafael Sanchez found out while shopping at a corner store across the street from some Carrier plants on the west side of Monterrey. 

He went to the store with 50 pesos, the equivalent of about $3, which is what Carrier workers will make in Monterrey without benefits. With that money, he was able to buy milk for 27 pesos. He could not buy a loaf of bread without going over the 50 pesos. So, if workers in Monterrey want to buy bread, a Pepsi, milk and eggs, they would have to work at least two hours, and that's if they make $6 per hour with benefits. 

More: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local...e-not-much




It appears stores charge more in towns where there are workers that are able to pay more. 

Maybe Cletus is talking about the wages Mexicans make in the resort areas where Cletus visits.

[Wonky3]

If wages are NOT low in Mexico why do businesses want to move there? to get cheap mangos?

I thought I heard one of the politicians on the news say factory workers earn an average of about $2.50 an hour in Mexico. I found this regarding Carrier workers.


MONTERREY, Mexico -- Carrier employees in Mexico will make an average of $3 per hour, $6 per hour if you combine salary and benefits. 

So what can one get for $3 in Monterrey? Not much as RTV6's Rafael Sanchez found out while shopping at a corner store across the street from some Carrier plants on the west side of Monterrey. 

He went to the store with 50 pesos, the equivalent of about $3, which is what Carrier workers will make in Monterrey without benefits. With that money, he was able to buy milk for 27 pesos. He could not buy a loaf of bread without going over the 50 pesos. So, if workers in Monterrey want to buy bread, a Pepsi, milk and eggs, they would have to work at least two hours, and that's if they make $6 per hour with benefits. 

More: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local...e-not-much




It appears stores charge more in towns where there are workers that are able to pay more. 

Maybe Cletus is talking about the wages Mexicans make in the resort areas where Cletus visits.

Gotta be some reason they have come by the millions to brave the Rio Grande and the parched desert. 

But hey, Clete you are there on the ground. Do you speak the language? You record some interviews and air them for us.