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Postby TennisMom » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:24 pm

Fox News may be the Number One cable news network, but they never receive any awards. That is because Fox News isn't news, it's entertainment (and drivel).

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Re: Fox News

Postby oldoregon » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:28 pm

I thought it was because the awards are all given by Lib elitists who don't understand the real America.
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Re: Fox News

Postby WKYonc » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:33 pm

Not entirely fair.
I seldom watched it, and haven't now for some time because I seldom watch any news on TV anymore.
But, their "Newscasts" are (or at least were, when I saw them) just that. News.

Now, the pundits they hire, that's a whole different ball game.

Fair is fair. Even if it's not balanced.
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Re: Fox News

Postby Steve Plunk » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:39 pm

Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.

Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.
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Re: Fox News

Postby WKYonc » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:50 pm

Steve Plunk wrote:Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.

Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.


You are myopic to a fault.
A couple of folks at the NYT were bad actors so that institution stinks?
Awards are worthless tokens? Ask conservative writers Anne Applebaum, or William Taubman how they felt about the Pulitzer.
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Re: Fox News

Postby Cometmom » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:33 pm

WKYonc wrote:
Steve Plunk wrote:Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.

Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.


You are myopic to a fault.
A couple of folks at the NYT were bad actors so that institution stinks?
Awards are worthless tokens? Ask conservative writers Anne Applebaum, or William Taubman how they felt about the Pulitzer.


Isn't that what TM just said about Fox News?
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Re: Fox News

Postby cletus1 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:39 pm

I have been watching Aljezeera News. The reporting is much more factual then Fox News. I mean REALLY. I wonder how many people that trash Aljezeera, have actually watched them. Don't get me wrong, the opinions and political commentary have some bias, but the news reporting is very similar to the BBC's News.

It stuns me that many Americans actually believe that most of the worlds news agecies are propaganda machines, except for that one news organization in America owned by Rupert Murdock the extremist conservative. Yup, the entire world's news agencies are all tainted and only Fox is fair and balanced. :twitch: :wacko:
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Re: Fox News

Postby Red, White & Blue » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:11 am

Let's be Fair and Balanced. Someone needs to since the press is long dead.

Editor Tina Brown Admits: Obama 'Got Best Press Known to Man,' WaPo’s Howard Kurtz Agrees
By Scott Whitlock | Fri, 02/05/2010 - 12:02

Two prominent journalists appeared on Friday's Good Morning America and casually admitted that Barack Obama has received glowing coverage from the press. Former Vanity Fair and New Yorker editor Tina Brown announced, "No, [Obama] got the best press known to man. Let’s face it."

Howard Kurtz, host of Reliable Sources on CNN and a Washington Post columnist, corrected, "In the history of civilization." The liberal Brown quickly agreed, "In the history of civilization, incredible.” Kurtz and Brown appeared with Meghan McCain to discuss the latest political developments with GMA host George Stephanopoulos.

McCain, a moderate Republican, offered her own denouncement of liberal bias. Discussing the John Edwards sex scandal and how journalists ignored it during the 2008 campaign, she complained, "Where was the press when this was going on? Who was reporting on this? And when you find out later on that many people in the press did know about the affair going on, it could have changed the course of the election."

John McCain's daughter continued, "Why isn't the press doing their jobs? What are these secrets?" This prompted Kurtz into an attempted defense of his profession: "We often hear rumors about politicians. But there's often a question about whether you publish those rumors because they may not be true."

McCain also dismissed the notion, promoted by Kurtz, that liberal comedian Jon Stewart has turned against the President. She mocked, "For every one Obama comedy sketch The Daily Show does, they do about 100 for every Republican. So, I don't think anybody needs to worry about Jon Stewart voting Republican anytime soon."

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Re: Fox News

Postby tvguy » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:30 am

Yeah too bad the press didn't do a better job spreading all the right wing propaganda Right RWB?

What's the problem they didn't waste enough time spreading lies like Palin and Hanity talking about how Obama pals around with terrorists ? Or the press didn't cover the Birth certificate scandal :lol:



Maybe they are just not willing to print news that rednecks WANT to hear. Funny that the "press is dead" but loud mouths like Rush or Ann Coulter who I avoid like the plague STILL have ZERO problems getting their hate messages out for all to hear.
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Re: Fox News

Postby WKYonc » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:38 am

Cometmom wrote:
WKYonc wrote:
Steve Plunk wrote:Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.

Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.


You are myopic to a fault.
A couple of folks at the NYT were bad actors so that institution stinks?
Awards are worthless tokens? Ask conservative writers Anne Applebaum, or William Taubman how they felt about the Pulitzer.


Isn't that what TM just said about Fox News?


No.
No even ballpark.
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Re: Fox News

Postby WKYonc » Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:47 am

cletus1 wrote:I have been watching Aljezeera News. The reporting is much more factual then Fox News. I mean REALLY. I wonder how many people that trash Aljezeera, have actually watched them. Don't get me wrong, the opinions and political commentary have some bias, but the news reporting is very similar to the BBC's News.

It stuns me that many Americans actually believe that most of the worlds news agecies are propaganda machines, except for that one news organization in America owned by Rupert Murdock the extremist conservative. Yup, the entire world's news agencies are all tainted and only Fox is fair and balanced. :twitch: :wacko:


I too watch Aljazzera News, U.S., with Riz Khan. I've often wondered what the news from that station in other languages sounds like. Different angle? Agreed, good news source.
And get back to the beach and get some sun for cryin' out loud. You come back here looking like a fish belly and we are going to suspect your vacation was, in fact, in Brookings.
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Re: Fox News

Postby Steve Plunk » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:23 pm

WKYonc,

Myopic? Pointing out that awards mean little when given within an industry doesn't make me myopic it makes me perceptive. To a fault to borrow your words. Too many people equate quality with such awards and I was pointing out those awards can be faulty. In Duranty's case it reflects how little scrutiny fellow journalists gave each other while patting each other on the back.

I did not criticize the Times although I could have for other mistakes and as far as conservatives receiving awards I feel the same.

Tennismom was saying (correct me if I'm wrong TM) that a lack of awards on the Fox shelf shows a lack of quality. I'm countering with my opinion that awards mean little. Far from myopic.
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Re: Fox News

Postby tvguy » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:04 pm

Wonky.....I too watch Aljazzera News, U.S., with Riz Khan. I've often wondered what the news from that station in other languages sounds like.


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Re: Fox News

Postby TennisMom » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:10 pm

Steve Plunk wrote:WKYonc,


Tennismom was saying (correct me if I'm wrong TM) that a lack of awards on the Fox shelf shows a lack of quality. I'm countering with my opinion that awards mean little. Far from myopic.


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Re: Fox News

Postby Steve Plunk » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:39 pm

TennisMom,

I'm not trying to get an award so Aesop's story seems inappropriate. Was my statement correct concerning your allusion that a lack of awards means poor quality?
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Re: Fox News

Postby WKYonc » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:39 pm

Steve Plunk wrote:WKYonc,

Myopic? Pointing out that awards mean little when given within an industry doesn't make me myopic it makes me perceptive. To a fault to borrow your words. Too many people equate quality with such awards and I was pointing out those awards can be faulty. In Duranty's case it reflects how little scrutiny fellow journalists gave each other while patting each other on the back.

I did not criticize the Times although I could have for other mistakes and as far as conservatives receiving awards I feel the same.

Tennismom was saying (correct me if I'm wrong TM) that a lack of awards on the Fox shelf shows a lack of quality. I'm countering with my opinion that awards mean little. Far from myopic.


And I say they DO mean something. I pointed to some Conservative writers who have won awards and I admire that. Just not aware of anyone a Fox...
And by the way, if there was a god, Tony Blankley at the Washington Times would be honored. A staunch Conservative (a speech writer for President Regan) he is opposed to everything I like, but he is bright, articulate, and does not rant and foam at the mouth. A very reasoned man who may have had a high fever as a child and somehow bought into the wrong political philosophy.
(Also an obese man who took control of his life and got his weight to a manageable place. Have to admire that!)
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Re: Fox News

Postby jackie_treehorn » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:19 am

I love this channel. I actually tuned in two nights last week for the Jon Stewart-OReilly showdown. Which off the bat I though was quite tame and kind of funny because Stewart didn't have his typical wit during it.

Oh that's because they edited the holy shit out of it to not make O'Reilly and the network look bad....

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Re: Fox News

Postby tvguy » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:59 pm

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Re: Fox News

Postby TennisMom » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:19 pm

Steve Plunk wrote:TennisMom,

I'm not trying to get an award so Aesop's story seems inappropriate. Was my statement correct concerning your allusion that a lack of awards means poor quality?


How I interpreted your statement was, Scarecrow: Come along Dorothy. You don't want any of those apples.
Apple Tree: Are you hinting my apples aren't what they ought to be?
Scarecrow: Oh, no! It's just that she doesn't like little green worms!
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Re: Fox News

Postby Larry » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:52 pm

Fox News 3 AM show beats CNN's PRIMETIME lineup.

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