Steve Plunk wrote:Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.
Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.
WKYonc wrote:Steve Plunk wrote:Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.
Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.
You are myopic to a fault.
A couple of folks at the NYT were bad actors so that institution stinks?
Awards are worthless tokens? Ask conservative writers Anne Applebaum, or William Taubman how they felt about the Pulitzer.
Editor Tina Brown Admits: Obama 'Got Best Press Known to Man,' WaPo’s Howard Kurtz Agrees
By Scott Whitlock | Fri, 02/05/2010 - 12:02
Two prominent journalists appeared on Friday's Good Morning America and casually admitted that Barack Obama has received glowing coverage from the press. Former Vanity Fair and New Yorker editor Tina Brown announced, "No, [Obama] got the best press known to man. Let’s face it."
Howard Kurtz, host of Reliable Sources on CNN and a Washington Post columnist, corrected, "In the history of civilization." The liberal Brown quickly agreed, "In the history of civilization, incredible.” Kurtz and Brown appeared with Meghan McCain to discuss the latest political developments with GMA host George Stephanopoulos.
McCain, a moderate Republican, offered her own denouncement of liberal bias. Discussing the John Edwards sex scandal and how journalists ignored it during the 2008 campaign, she complained, "Where was the press when this was going on? Who was reporting on this? And when you find out later on that many people in the press did know about the affair going on, it could have changed the course of the election."
John McCain's daughter continued, "Why isn't the press doing their jobs? What are these secrets?" This prompted Kurtz into an attempted defense of his profession: "We often hear rumors about politicians. But there's often a question about whether you publish those rumors because they may not be true."
McCain also dismissed the notion, promoted by Kurtz, that liberal comedian Jon Stewart has turned against the President. She mocked, "For every one Obama comedy sketch The Daily Show does, they do about 100 for every Republican. So, I don't think anybody needs to worry about Jon Stewart voting Republican anytime soon."
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Cometmom wrote:WKYonc wrote:Steve Plunk wrote:Awards can be misleading as well. The infamous New York Times reporter Walter Duranty was awarded a Pulitzer prize. Hos reporting on the Soviet Union was accepted as accurate yet historians have concluded he was at best a fool or at worst a collaborator with Stalin trying to undermine the West with propaganda. His failure to report the Ukrainian famine is still one of the great scandals of journalism.
Awards these days are generally generally given and received by like minded groups or individuals patting each other on the back. They are worthless tokens exchanged in a mutual admiration society. What does that mean for Fox News? Nothing.
You are myopic to a fault.
A couple of folks at the NYT were bad actors so that institution stinks?
Awards are worthless tokens? Ask conservative writers Anne Applebaum, or William Taubman how they felt about the Pulitzer.
Isn't that what TM just said about Fox News?
cletus1 wrote:I have been watching Aljezeera News. The reporting is much more factual then Fox News. I mean REALLY. I wonder how many people that trash Aljezeera, have actually watched them. Don't get me wrong, the opinions and political commentary have some bias, but the news reporting is very similar to the BBC's News.
It stuns me that many Americans actually believe that most of the worlds news agecies are propaganda machines, except for that one news organization in America owned by Rupert Murdock the extremist conservative. Yup, the entire world's news agencies are all tainted and only Fox is fair and balanced.![]()
Wonky.....I too watch Aljazzera News, U.S., with Riz Khan. I've often wondered what the news from that station in other languages sounds like.
Steve Plunk wrote:WKYonc,
Tennismom was saying (correct me if I'm wrong TM) that a lack of awards on the Fox shelf shows a lack of quality. I'm countering with my opinion that awards mean little. Far from myopic.
Steve Plunk wrote:WKYonc,
Myopic? Pointing out that awards mean little when given within an industry doesn't make me myopic it makes me perceptive. To a fault to borrow your words. Too many people equate quality with such awards and I was pointing out those awards can be faulty. In Duranty's case it reflects how little scrutiny fellow journalists gave each other while patting each other on the back.
I did not criticize the Times although I could have for other mistakes and as far as conservatives receiving awards I feel the same.
Tennismom was saying (correct me if I'm wrong TM) that a lack of awards on the Fox shelf shows a lack of quality. I'm countering with my opinion that awards mean little. Far from myopic.
Steve Plunk wrote:TennisMom,
I'm not trying to get an award so Aesop's story seems inappropriate. Was my statement correct concerning your allusion that a lack of awards means poor quality?
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