Don't ask, don't tell

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Hey folks don't buy Hillclimbers steady keel. He refers to me as Mr Blasphemy and has a temper he restrains to the point of anal deformity.

You have a way of inspiring that ... no?

Que your kinda funny old boy. I didn't create this monster , I was born to defeat it. He is pure unadulterated Ronald Reagan era eeeevile. You know I actually thought about the possibility of taking a trip one of these days It is so nostalgic and toxic in a Christian sort of way.

Born to defeat it ... a little Sallyesque, no? I get the Reagan part; you don't need a crusade though.

Funny how he doesn't define choice when it comes to this issue. Those kind never do.

[Tia]

If I'm not mistaken, you and I have had this discussion before. am I right?
There is an enormous rise in so called homosexuals in public schools.. But my point is that when a nation begins rationalizing homosexuality as a "normal" lifestyle, and begins a campaign of litigation and propaganda to that end, it is a society in decline.

We have? Then I'm assuming you have had this discussion with me somewhere else at some other time, being as you have a post count of 15. Where and when was this discussion? And, while you are at it, can you please provide some evidence for your claim of 'an enormous rise in homosexuals in public schools' as opposed to it being just more visible?

Oh I see now.. I was responding to Tim, not Tia....

Oh. I see. Well, Tim, time to change you name!

[bbqboy]

or you to get reading glasses, granny

[PonderThis]

I had this theory; it’s only a theory but for sure the more people the more there are going to be homosexuals. My theory is that the more that “nature” deems there is an overpopulation of any species, there is a quirk set forth in the population to curtail anymore propagation. Some fish species when faced with a dilemma of either overpopulation or overuse of the oxygen in the water will produce only females of its species…

For a theory I believe to be, there would be 100 people from let’s say, 50 years ago & 100 people from today. Of those 100 people, it would make sense to me that a higher percentage of today’s would be homosexual than the 100 people in the past. Like I say, that is the way it seems to me.

Man that is one strange theory. I won't ask you for evidence to support the theory because I doubt there is any.

Mixpix might be right still, though. They've had experiments where rats were kept in a confined area, and given all the food and water they wanted, but no more room to expand. As the population gets larger they get a higher amount of "homosexual" behavior. At least, that's as I remember reading it. Personally, I don't see homosexuality as a choice, it's just something that is. I don't know that anybody really knows what causes it, or that anybody has the ability to change it, either.

[Jesus Christ]

What is amazing about the rat studies is how simple they are, and how clearly rat behavior can be said to predict human behavior. The number of rats is always split male and female: 1) Put two rats in a 4 x 4 cage. Great life — babies, plenty of food, plenty of reproduction, good parenting by Mr. and Mrs. Rat. 2) Put four rats in a 4×4 cage (Pretty good life, a little bit of squabbling over food, decent parents. 3) Put eight rats in a 4×4 cage. Now some weird things start to happen. Intense fighting, babies are left to die, occasional homosexual activity, some withdrawal, some extreme aggression. Put 16 rats in a 4×4 cage. Rats begin to kill each other, cannibalize bodies and young, increased homosexuality, no parenting skills develop, and the scene is a social nightmare.

Too many rats fighting for their piece of the "Rat Dream" leads to a stress

The national Institute of Mental Health stated the following (and notes in this study they basically gave a test group of rats lobotomies and tried to determine who could handle life better — the damaged rat in a low population setting or the normal rat in high population. The high population rat lost, and basically could not deal with life:
http://dontdiecrying.com/2009/12/27/rag ... ming-true/

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I had this theory; it’s only a theory but for sure the more people the more there are going to be homosexuals. My theory is that the more that “nature” deems there is an overpopulation of any species, there is a quirk set forth in the population to curtail anymore propagation. Some fish species when faced with a dilemma of either overpopulation or overuse of the oxygen in the water will produce only females of its species…

For a theory I believe to be, there would be 100 people from let’s say, 50 years ago & 100 people from today. Of those 100 people, it would make sense to me that a higher percentage of today’s would be homosexual than the 100 people in the past. Like I say, that is the way it seems to me.

Man that is one strange theory. I won't ask you for evidence to support the theory because I doubt there is any.

Mixpix might be right still, though. They've had experiments where rats were kept in a confined area, and given all the food and water they wanted, but no more room to expand. As the population gets larger they get a higher amount of "homosexual" behavior. At least, that's as I remember reading it. Personally, I don't see homosexuality as a choice, it's just something that is. I don't know that anybody really knows what causes it, or that anybody has the ability to change it, either.

The Earth is too big for that theory to apply. However, if "nature" is the supreme being with intelligence, we're screwed. It would be a lot like Carlin imagined, introducing a virus that affected procreation ...

Nah. I would think a supreme being would be more blunt. The tower of babble was gentle, but pretty immediate when you think about it.

[hillclimber]

I believe there are more homosexuals for the simple reason that we have tried our best to legitimize it, and in so doing, have created an open arena for attraction.. That allows homosexuals to proselytize far more openly, with many young impressionable kids indoctrinated and many thrill seekers enticed..

[tvguy]

What part of the fact that homosexuals used to hide their sexuality do you not understand?

There wouldn't be a phrase called coming out of the closet unless they were in a closet .Your deduction that there are more gays today because of what your family saw in high school is not just anti scientific, it's absurd.

Semantics.. You and I aren't going to resolve this are we? The great coming out of the closet era, was a dark day. There is no closet today, and many children in middle school and high school, are declaring their homosexuality even before they know what it is... It's almost a rebellious movement.. Young teens have enough hormonal upheaval occurring in their bodies to make them vulnerable to vicious enticement.

If you stop to think of the act, which I try to avoid doing, it is despicable, and disgusting. "IT'S ABSURD" to use your words.

No it's not despicable anymore the a paraplegic is despicable, It's the way they were born, quit being a bigot. if you think gays are disgusting then don't pal around with them.


People like you SHOULDN'T think about it, especially if it disturbs you so much, gays are not bothering you or ruining the country, If anything ignorant people who think teens getting enticed in to being gay is a big problem are ruining something.

[Tia]

or you to get reading glasses, granny

Hey, it wasn't MY mistake!

[Tia]

I believe there are more homosexuals for the simple reason that we have tried our best to legitimize it, and in so doing, have created an open arena for attraction.. That allows homosexuals to proselytize far more openly, with many young impressionable kids indoctrinated and many thrill seekers enticed..

I don't think there's a thing in the world to prove there are more homosexuals in the world than before coming out became acceptable. Except to admit that as population numbers the actual numbers would grow, but not the percentage. Unfortunately it's all just your opinion.

[GoCometsGo]

Since we are on the subject.... what about the Mississippi prom that was canceled because a lesbian couple planned to attend as (gasp) a lesbian couple?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/201 ... prom_N.htm

My gut reaction.... regardless of whatever rules may or may not be in play.... the school board got it wrong. Let the gals go to the prom. If anyone doesn't like it, let them stay home.

Worthy of a new thread or ok here?

Of course it goes without saying that if the couple were gay MEN... they should not be allowed to attend.

[cletus1]

I believe there are more homosexuals for the simple reason that we have tried our best to legitimize it, and in so doing, have created an open arena for attraction.. That allows homosexuals to proselytize far more openly, with many young impressionable kids indoctrinated and many thrill seekers enticed..

You sound like you are saying homosexuals can make heterosexuals into homosexuals. Is that what you are saying? And its always the kids with you fear mongers. Aaaaaah, the kids will become dope fiends because my neighbor smokes pot. Aaaaaaah, those men are holding hands in public what about our poor kids, Are you enticed by that gay stuff you silly thrill seeker?

[bbqboy]

what do you think "hillclimber" is code for?

[mixpix]

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Man that is one strange theory. I won't ask you for evidence to support the theory because I doubt there is any.

http://www.underwatertimes.com/news.php?article_id=23608179104

Look, how many people can just wake up & say: “gee, I want to have sex with my gender”?

I don’t think it is possible for people that are heterosexual to just decide to be homosexual. People can be confused with their sexuality & through the pressure of society, go on to have a family or engage in heterosexual relationships but all along this “demon” of urge to engage with the same sex is always lingering.

A person who is brought up in a strict family value moral setting might interpret this to mean the “calling” from the lord. The person knows that society has condemned homosexual behavior but at the same time knows that they are not attracted to the opposite sex so they copout & join the priesthood because they know then that it is acceptable to avoid the opposite sex altogether.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with this topic but both the UK & Japan have zero population growth. I mention it because of the “packed in like rats” experiments. I don’t equate people’s deviant sexual attitudes in prison as homosexual; just going nuts bored….

[Wonky]

I think this is a good policy.

When my wife comes back home at 4:00 AM, all sweaty, her hair matted and clothing all awry,
I don't ask.
She doesn't tell.

[mixpix]

The Earth is too big for that theory to apply. However, if "nature" is the supreme being with intelligence, we're screwed. It would be a lot like Carlin imagined, introducing a virus that affected procreation ...

Nah. I would think a supreme being would be more blunt. The tower of babble was gentle, but pretty immediate when you think about it.

I think the “nature” is blunt. Think of global warming & the population of the world that has grown from 2 billion people to 6 billion in the past 30-50 years.
An example: ‘Mad Cow Disease’. It is called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. It is a brain wasting disease that develops from cannibalism. Downer cows are ground up & put back into the cattle feed to give a cheap source of protein back to the feed cattle. The disease basically causes the brain to turn to a sponge.

My interpretation of the disease is the “nature” has determined that the cattle have resorted to cannibalism due to overpopulation; hence the nature has taken upon itself to inflict a disease to quickly knock down the population…

My Proof (in theory): New Guinea had tribes that practiced cannibalism. Not because of food source but due to a “passage of ancestry” to the new generation. The disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob developed mostly in the children & women. The warriors & men of the tribe would be afforded the “prime cuts” so the men didn’t get the disease as much. Again, this is a disease not unlike Mad Cow that causes the brain to turn to sponge.

However you want to determine it, Mad Cow is a product of cannibalism. Though, homosexuality can just be a quirk of nature at random; I feel that nature will make a species answer in some form due to its overpopulation & the balance of nature interrupted.

In the knowledge base of ‘Mad Cow’ disease today, have curtailed the use of any spinal cord or brain tissue in the food due to the contamination. But the Government Accountability Office has determined that cattle rancher’s still practice using downer cows for cattle feed; consumers beware….

[Jesus Christ]

A person who is brought up in a strict family value moral setting might interpret this to mean the “calling” from the lord. The person knows that society has condemned homosexual behavior but at the same time knows that they are not attracted to the opposite sex so they copout & join the priesthood because they know then that it is acceptable to avoid the opposite sex altogether.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with this topic but both the UK & Japan have zero population growth. I mention it because of the “packed in like rats” experiments. I don’t equate people’s deviant sexual attitudes in prison as homosexual; just going nuts bored….

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Hey retard , your dislike of the Teachings of Jesus are noted. As far as this stuff goes you might want to read The very beginning of Paul's letters. It condemns false doctrines that restrict Church leaders from marriage and states that if a person is sexually inflamed that they marry . It is also stated the other than for times of prayer and devotion couples should never deny the others immediate need for sexual gratification. This was in order to nip any deviant kinds of behavior from hatching. Sounds like a good freaking deal to me.
Your talking about the Catholic Church. You also might want to take Clinical deception into account as far as Studies are concerned. Doing studies in sterile environments is a practice loaded with agenda. Quite simply , in order to control society , create an environment that mimics a clinical setting. To control humans create machines that mimic them and make humans mimic machines. The more removed human's are from Mother Nature the easier it is to manipulate then. When it comes to screwing up a person or number of person's minds , and controlling their behavior , you can bet they have figured out how to make a person do just about anything. Psychologists are experts at creating conditions where they can project a form of behavior upon an individual. Then they call it therapy.

[mixpix]

I believe there are more homosexuals for the simple reason that we have tried our best to legitimize it, and in so doing, have created an open arena for attraction.. That allows homosexuals to proselytize far more openly, with many young impressionable kids indoctrinated and many thrill seekers enticed..

hillclimber,
I would ask you this question: Are you struggling with your sexuality? I am not being facetious but I can’t figure why you would assume people can be “converted” to homosexuality?

I can tell you & I’m not going to speak for anyone else on this topic; they can speak for themselves in that I have been “hit on” from homosexuals. I felt uncomfortable & tried to distance from them as a young kid but as I got older, I could simply say: “not interested, don’t float that way”. Usually that is the end of it…

IMO, people might be able to be recruited to a cult or a religion but they can’t go against their “nature”…

[mixpix]

Hey retard , your dislike of the Teachings of Jesus are noted

I never said anything about the “dislike of the teachings”. I’m indifferent to them in that I don’t really see the sum of the equation in that there is this “supreme being” that we all have to answer to; I just don’t see it.

Because I don’t see it, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. It more or less means that it doesn’t matter what we believe in just that what is “real”. In the mean time, humans flex their egos in their knowing of the meaning of life is; its origin…

In stating the “homosexual” scenario from my post above, it was an example. I was more to comparing what a moral person with the dilemma facing them that their battle with their sexuality would cause such an inner turmoil that they would be willing to give up sex altogether because on one hand, they are taught that sex with anything other than the opposite gender is wrong but on the other hand, they have no interest in the opposite sex. Their church has taught them that to “think” or to “feel” is not a sin but the act itself. I was hypothesizing what might be going through a person’s mind when pondering the abandonment of their need to propagate. The Catholic Church came to mind; they’ve been in the news quite a bit lately.

So sorry if you felt insulted. My point wasn’t to insult but to express how people are so conflicted in that they are told that homosexuality is a sin but in fact, they have no choice over their feelings. It is an inner battle that has to be fought within society too. Homosexuals are told they are wrong but who’s telling them? IMO, it is the ego that drives man’s mind that determines what is right or wrong in society but the inner feelings of the being is driven by a different motor. It is only egos that fight for the definition of what that “motor” should be…

[hillclimber]

I believe there are more homosexuals for the simple reason that we have tried our best to legitimize it, and in so doing, have created an open arena for attraction.. That allows homosexuals to proselytize far more openly, with many young impressionable kids indoctrinated and many thrill seekers enticed..

I don't think there's a thing in the world to prove there are more homosexuals in the world than before coming out became acceptable. Except to admit that as population numbers the actual numbers would grow, but not the percentage. Unfortunately it's all just your opinion.

You may be correct.. But there is no evidence I've seen either way... But I believe the percentage has grown a lot. I remember figures of 1% when I was in school, and thought, no way, too high... I do know that it has an enormous presence today compared to almost zero presence in the 60's.