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Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Clone - 11-19-2012 By Alex Taylor III | Fortune Quote:By the usual measurements, Subaru should be no more than an afterthought in the U.S. car market. It sells just seven car and crossover models and accounts for a slim 2.3% of U.S. auto sales. By itself, the Toyota Camry outsells the entire Subaru lineup. For years Subaru has been essentially a regional brand -- strong in the Northeast and Northwest but unknown in the rest of the country. No overnight success, Subaru of America -- the U.S. arm of Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries -- began selling cars in the U.S. 44 years ago and still ranks only 12th in size. Hyundai and Kia, which arrived two decades later, have developed broader product lines and sell several times more vehicles. Rest of Article: http://autos.yahoo.com/news/are-subarus-the-best-cars-money-can-buy-.html RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Wonky - 11-19-2012 [quote='Clone' pid='244601' dateline='1353373554'] By Alex Taylor III | Fortune Quote:By the usual measurements, Subaru should be no more than an afterthought in the U.S. car market. I could never own one. Sounds too much like a character from a Kipling novel. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Scrapper - 11-19-2012 (11-19-2012, 06:32 PM)Wonky Wrote: I could never own one. Sounds too much like a character from a Kipling novel. I owned one. Leaked. The first rain we had, after getting it, I went to take the kids to school... got in and our feet were in a lake! The entire floorboard... front seat, back seat and the back end... had turned into a lake! I love my Chevy Tahoe! RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Wonky - 11-19-2012 (11-19-2012, 06:49 PM)Scrapper Wrote:(11-19-2012, 06:32 PM)Wonky Wrote: I could never own one. Sounds too much like a character from a Kipling novel. Maybe you got the one made in India by wolves. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - illcommandante - 11-19-2012 I saw a Brat the other day, that looked like new. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Clone - 11-19-2012 (11-19-2012, 08:27 PM)illcommandante Wrote: I saw a Brat the other day, that looked like new. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - csrowan - 11-19-2012 My mother prefers Subarus. I like my '06 Honda Civic. Good milage (35-40mpg), great resale value, great reliablity. Generally, I prefer to buy American products, and Oregon products if I can manage, but for an investment like a car, I'll go for the best fit, regardless of where it is made. I mean, if I had the money, I'd have gotten a Tesla Motors car and a Brammo electric motorcycle, but since I don't have the money... RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - illcommandante - 11-19-2012 Subaru is pretty nichey, and very nice. Honda is just as incredible, in their end. You can buy a Honda, with some confidence, even when it's over 150 thousand. But, the highliners, don't have a whole lot on the rest. It'd be hard to be disatisifed with any car out there. For most, it's about the trim packages. It'd be hard to find a trim package that'll look good, when that old wreck finally dies. This is the golden era. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - chuck white - 11-20-2012 (11-19-2012, 08:55 PM)csrowan Wrote: My mother prefers Subarus. I like my '06 Honda Civic. Good milage (35-40mpg), great resale value, great reliablity. A car made in Oregon. I imagine it would look like this From Caveman motors. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - tvguy - 11-20-2012 (11-19-2012, 06:49 PM)Scrapper Wrote:(11-19-2012, 06:32 PM)Wonky Wrote: I could never own one. Sounds too much like a character from a Kipling novel. With all the money you throw away on gas you could have fixed that leak 187 times RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - illcommandante - 11-20-2012 I wish I'd known what I was looking at, when I saw that first CRX. Not for the 160 some mph. But, for the mpg you could wring out of those things. I recommend buying something Japanese, with over a hundred thousand on it. Stick if you can bear it. Small as you can get by with. No more insurance, than the minimum property damage, and public liability. Pick something kind of classic, if you can. I drove fifty years without an airbag. Timing Chain! WaterPump! Oil every Five Thousand! There, now you're out there for as cheap as can be. Time to start thinking about hypermiling. You can have an enjoyable driving experience, without bleeding too hard. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - tvguy - 11-20-2012 I've been driving Subaru's for 10 years or so They are a damn fine cars I've owned six of them. I use my 93 Loyale like a truck . You can't imagine what I've hauled in it. This is the one I drive now. I was testing the wind speed for a wind generator I made. You might not notice but I enhanced the photo a little. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Willie Krash - 11-20-2012 I'm with TeeVee. Two Subaru's in the garage. Not a Honda fan. Noisy at highway speed. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Clone - 11-21-2012 (11-20-2012, 11:52 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I'm with TeeVee. Two Subaru's in the garage. Not a Honda fan. Noisy at highway speed. I did a TON of research on the Kia Rondo before we bought one with only 11,000 miles on it from Enterprise. It was almost difficult to believe Edmunds and others who wrote that Kia was the next Honda/Toyota. But we could afford it. The only complaint I have so far is, because it's in a lower price range, the road noise isn't all that great...but...this is one of the best handling cars I've ever owned, and I've owned a lot of cars. A test in handling to me is, when not endangering a passenger, I like to see how fast I can take those I-5 curves around Shasta Lake. I can pass 18 wheelers on the curve coming up to the bridge at 80mph and she's solid. Hugs the road like a champ. That's a good handling automobile. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - tvguy - 11-21-2012 (11-20-2012, 11:52 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I'm with TeeVee. Two Subaru's in the garage. Not a Honda fan. Noisy at highway speed. Wow, funny you should say that. We just recently bought a 1997 Honda. Bought it from an older well to do couple. A one owner in perfect condition We paid 3200. Anyway it's the first Honda I've ever had and when I finished the test drive I asked why it was so loud. He said that it was always that way and that particular year was kind of known for engine and road noise. Seemed to me to come through the firewall. Not really a big deal. BTW the 97 Volvo we had and are now selling to the grandkid was so quiet you couldn't even tell if the engine was running. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - csrowan - 11-21-2012 I've had people mistake my Honda for a hybrid, it's so quiet RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - PonderThis - 11-21-2012 (11-19-2012, 06:49 PM)Scrapper Wrote:(11-19-2012, 06:32 PM)Wonky Wrote: I could never own one. Sounds too much like a character from a Kipling novel. I wonder if that car had been in a major accident. Most leaks like that are coming in from the windshield. I'm sure it didn't come from the factory like that. (Many, many years ago I played with rebuilding totals. I did some rollovers so smashed up around the window area the windows had to be massively ground down in several places in order to "fit", and I really felt sorry for the next guy that ever had to try and replace them.) RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - illcommandante - 11-21-2012 I bought my wife a little Mercedes at World Famous Auto. My friend showed me where it had been in a wreck. They agreed, and gave me back a thousand bucks. And, it'd never been wrecked at all. It had just overheated and blown a radiiator hose. It was an 84 diesel. I'd like to have it back. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - Tiamat - 11-21-2012 I owned an old subaru. What I found is that, not being mechanical, I spent more on subaru fixes than on other cars. Oh, and often had to wait days for service because I would have to take it to a Subaru specialist. RE: Subaru: Best Car Money Can Buy? - tvguy - 11-21-2012 (11-21-2012, 08:40 AM)Tiamat Wrote: I owned an old subaru. What I found is that, not being mechanical, I spent more on subaru fixes than on other cars. Yes when you buy an old car of any kind you have to expect to fix things. It's funny but sometimes you get one where most all of the things that fail, already failed and were replaced. If you are unlucky and you buy a used car the CV joints, hoses, alternator, starter, water pump and things like that are all new. When you have NO car payment whatsoever you are still usually better off even when repairs are frequent. But maybe not so much when you don't do any work yourself. Quote:Oh, and often had to wait days for service because I would have to take it to a Subaru specialist. How long ago was this? I'm pretty sure that most any garage will work on a Subaru now. |