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RE: Record Breaking Weather - bbqboy - 12-05-2015

What about pork & Chicken? 


RE: Record Breaking Weather - Wonky3 - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 11:49 AM)bbqboy Wrote: What about pork & Chicken? 

Since this is not a reply to another post and asks a question that doesn't seem to have any context, I'll play:

What about pork and chicken?  (Don't know why Chicken is capitalized above, but maybe it was a chicken you knew and named?) 


RE: Record Breaking Weather - Cuzz - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 11:58 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(12-05-2015, 11:49 AM)bbqboy Wrote: What about pork & Chicken? 

Since this is not a reply to another post and asks a question that doesn't seem to have any context, I'll play:

What about pork and chicken?  (Don't know why Chicken is capitalized above, but maybe it was a chicken you knew and named?) 

I think he's being proactive and answering before the question can be asked. So, we should now ask the question. You first.


RE: Record Breaking Weather - tvguy - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 10:02 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Interesting that this thread, like most, has turned political. People that think man made global warming is no big deal are almost always far right Republicans. So here are a few questions: Why do politics influence what you choose to believe about global warming? It should be science that determines your view on the issue, right? And how the hell does someone living on this planet become anti environment? 

Why are most conservatives, especially religious conservatives dismissive of efforts to protect the environment? I kind of understand why religious folks don't believe global warming is a problem. These religious believers have fantastic ideas about the nature of the universe and have become accustom to believing what they want and facts just don't matter to them. 

Anyone else care to speculate as to why Republicans don't give a shit about global warming?

It goes back to the days when dirty smelly matted hair unshaven tie dyed pot smoking hippies decided we needed trees. And the fat head beer slurping flannel shirt greasy baseball hat wearing red necks wanted to cut down all the trees.
And the hippies didn't want a war with Vietnam so the rednecks decided they wuz not patriotic Mericans.

So that carried over to where ANY Enviro is a hippie who just wants to take jobs away from real Americans.

That's the underlying truth of that matter.The right= Hard working Patriotic God guns and the religious. The left= Anti American subversive Godless welfare/foodstamp sucking free loaders.

So climate change that is caused by humans CAN'T possibly be true be cause Al Gore brought this to our attention. OF COURSE it's all a lie to get juicy government grants to 97% of the scientists and experts the world over. In other words climate change is all about money $$$$$
AM Radio and right wing conspiracy Theorists constantly pump this in to the tiny brains like the ones who post here.

It would NEVER EVER occur to them that the very people they follow are the ones who REALLY are all about money$$$$$


RE: Record Breaking Weather - chuck white - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 11:49 AM)bbqboy Wrote: What about pork & Chicken? 

Quote:A new study of methane emissions finds that the U.S. is spewing 50 percent more methane, a greenhouse gas 21 times better at trapping heat than carbon dioxide, into the atmosphere than the Environmental Protection Agency previously assumed. Several factors contribute to the accumulation of methane gas in Earth’s atmosphere, such as the burning of fossil fuels and leaks from oil and gas refining and drilling, but one contender stands out above the rest as particularly repugnant: cow farts.

http://www.ibtimes.com/cow-farts-have-larger-greenhouse-gas-impact-previously-thought-methane-pushes-climate-change-1487502



http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-co2-from-cars-427843.html


RE: Record Breaking Weather - cletus1 - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 01:13 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-05-2015, 10:02 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Interesting that this thread, like most, has turned political. People that think man made global warming is no big deal are almost always far right Republicans. So here are a few questions: Why do politics influence what you choose to believe about global warming? It should be science that determines your view on the issue, right? And how the hell does someone living on this planet become anti environment? 

Why are most conservatives, especially religious conservatives dismissive of efforts to protect the environment? I kind of understand why religious folks don't believe global warming is a problem. These religious believers have fantastic ideas about the nature of the universe and have become accustom to believing what they want and facts just don't matter to them. 

Anyone else care to speculate as to why Republicans don't give a shit about global warming?

It goes back to the days when dirty smelly matted hair unshaven tie dyed pot smoking hippies decided we needed trees. And the fat head beer slurping flannel shirt greasy baseball hat wearing red necks wanted to cut down all the trees.
And the hippies didn't want a war with Vietnam so the rednecks decided they wuz not patriotic Mericans.

So that carried over to where ANY Enviro is a hippie who just wants to take jobs away from real Americans.

That's the underlying truth of that matter.The right= Hard working Patriotic God guns and the religious. The left= Anti American subversive Godless welfare/foodstamp sucking free loaders.

So climate change that is caused by humans CAN'T possibly be true be cause Al Gore brought this to our attention. OF COURSE it's all a lie to get juicy government grants to 97% of the scientists and experts the world over. In other words climate change is all about money $$$$$
AM Radio and right wing conspiracy Theorists constantly pump this in to the tiny brains like the ones who post here.

It would NEVER EVER occur to them that the very people they follow are the ones who REALLY are all about money$$$$$
I agree with everything you just posted, seriously. That is the best explanation I have heard to date.  Smiling

Thinking Al Gore is pushing global warming to make money is absurd and cynical in a retarded sort of way. 


RE: Record Breaking Weather - orygunluvr - 12-05-2015

Generation Investment Management, and it's 60 or so billionaire investors, rely heavily on taxpayer funded "green" energy investments worldwide. They were instrumental in getting obozo, as a senator, help secure funding for the now defunct Chicago carbon exchange bank. Yes, Al Gore and David Blood love you lemmings, you have become righteous believers in their religion of first global warming, and when it came out that the leading "scientists" lied, changed to climate change. 97% of scientists all use the same research that is proven to be a lie. There has been more than enough proof that it's a lie but as always the followers put on blinders. Of course when you lose the support of someone like a susie tomokins beull you jump, so the current push by democratic "leaders" with hysteria like speeches is to keep the money rolling in. So here in Oregon we now have an added cost to gas that goes to some entity in another state in the name of  climate change.


RE: Record Breaking Weather - orygunluvr - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 10:09 AM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Buffalo Breaks 100 Year Record for Lack of Snow

http://www.wgrz.com/story/weather/2015/12/03/latest-snowfall-record-falls-at-midnight/76762586/

So what caused it 100 years ago?


RE: Record Breaking Weather - chuck white - 12-05-2015

(12-05-2015, 08:32 PM)orygunluvr Wrote:
(12-05-2015, 10:09 AM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Buffalo Breaks 100 Year Record for Lack of Snow

http://www.wgrz.com/story/weather/2015/12/03/latest-snowfall-record-falls-at-midnight/76762586/

So what caused it 100 years ago?

Late winter.


RE: Record Breaking Weather - orygunluvr - 12-05-2015

Because "saving" the world never sounded so good. Of course it's for the good of the planet that we transfer our pennies into the hands of Al Gore and his billionaire buddies, to the tune of their estimates of $10,000,000,000.00, for puffs of air. Without an epa writing ultra expensive regulations and tax credits for scams like solar and wind these multi billionaires would have a few less billion of our dollars. Makes my heart sad to think that if my heating bill doesn't go up by a few Benjamins a year these guys will have to fly around in jets that are a year old to tell us how the planet is going to end if we don't do something, like ride bicycles, eat weeds, and pay to breath. Tax on your breath for gasses that have no legitimate way to measure. 

https://davegj13.wordpress.com/2010/05/16/the-chicago-climate-exchange-pt-1-an-elitist-redistribution-scam/
The Chicago Climate Exchange, Pt. 1: An Elitist Redistribution Scam


RE: Record Breaking Weather - orygunluvr - 12-05-2015

So in case you guys didn't get the memo, or even know due to obozo dillusional disorder, when he became president it was a given that cap and trade was going through and he and his billionaire lovers would once and for all break the american workers bank account. Of course it's for the good of the planet and all. Obozo now OWES those investors, so he and they know he only has 12 more months to seal the deal, so now climate change causes EVERYTHING from sliced bread to two headed babies, and dillusional democratics that hate religion unless it's the religion of climate change.


RE: Record Breaking Weather - tornado - 12-06-2015

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RE: Record Breaking Weather - Wonky3 - 12-06-2015

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A bit like saying I won't get a flu shot because I'll probably get his by a bus anyway. 


RE: Record Breaking Weather - orygunluvr - 12-06-2015

Obozo says pay up suckers, I have billionaires I owe a lot of money to.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/04/5-facts-the-left-isnt-trumpeting-about-paris-and-climate-change/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thffacebook

ENERGYCOMMENTARY

5 Facts the Left Isn’t Trumpeting About Paris and Climate Change
Politicians and bureaucrats from nearly 200 nations are gathered in Paris for an international global warming agreement. In his opening statements, President Barack Obama [/url]claimed that “there is such a thing as being too late. And when it comes to climate change, that hour is almost upon us.”

In the midst of such self-induced high-pressure politics and the alleged immediacy of the situation, here are a few numbers to keep in mind.
  1. An Arbitrary Goal: 2 Degrees Celsius
The U.N.’s [url=http://www.cop21.gouv.fr/en/learn/what-is-cop21/]stated goal
 of the Paris conference is “to keep global warming below 2 degrees Celsius” from preindustrial levels. But as the Wall Street Journal reports and others have pointed out well before the Paris talks, many scientists—including those who believe we are facing catastrophic global warming—find the benchmark of 2 degrees Celsius arbitrary.
Professor of climatology at University College London Mark Maslin said, “It emerged from a political agenda, not a scientific analysis. It’s not a sensible, rational target because the models give you a range of possibilities, not a single answer.”







In other words, the entire premise of the conference is faulty.

  1. $100 Billion (or More)-per-Year Climate Fund
A major sticking point leading up to and during the Paris climate conference has been a Green Climate Fund that would collect $100 billion per year by 2020 to subsidize green energy and pay for other climate adaptation and mitigation programs in developing nations.

Only $10.2 billion has been pledged so far ($3 billion has been promised by Obama), but that’s already $10.2 billion too much.

World Bank Group vice president and special envoy for climate change Rachel Kyte said that “the $100 billion was picked out of the air at Copenhagen.”

Executive secretary for the U.N.’s climate change conventions Christiana Figueres has further admitted that the $100 billion is merely a proxy to win the trust of developing countries and that “we are talking here about trillions of dollars that need to flow into the transformation at a global level.”

  1. Amount of Warming Since 1998: Almost None
Even as global carbon dioxide emissions have increased, warming has plateaued. Most scientists would agree that the Earth has experience some warming over the past century, but there is little agreement as to how much is attributable to human activity or if warming is even harmful. An analysis by Judith Curry comparing five data sets of actual global temperatures found that all but one showed that global warming is on a break.

However, climate models have predicted far more warming than has actually happened in the past 18 years. If models have been unable to accurately project climate conditions ten years out, how can even longer-term projections be depended upon to make good policy decisions?

  1. Number of Coal Power Plants Planned Around the World: 2,440
A December report by four climate institutes found that far from decreasing in number, over 2,000 coal power plants are planned around the world in developing and industrialized nations. And for good reason—coal remains an efficient, affordable, and reliable resource to generate electricity.

It’s worth noting, too, that modern American coal power plants aren’t the plants of a century ago (or like the ones in China today) and can filter out 90 percent of mercury emissions and 99.8 percent of soot.

Too many politicians appear out of touch with reality, though. The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has suggested that “fossil fuel power generation without [carbon capture and sequestration be] phased out almost entirely by 2100” to mitigate warming.

To this end, the Obama administration’s emissions reduction commitment to cut 28 percent of U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 2025 further statedthat this was only a “pathway … to deep, economy-wide emission reductions of 80 percent or more by 2050.”

  1. Amount of Warming Avoided by the Obama Administration’s Clean Power Plan: 0.02 Degrees Celsius Over the Next 85 Years
The Clean Power Plan is at the heart of Obama’s U.N. climate commitment. But regardless of one’s opinion of global warming, the Clean Power Plan does next to nothing to reduce global temperatures.

Models created by the Environmental Protection Agency show that the climate impact of the Clean Power Plan is less than 0.02 degrees Celsius in warming avoided over the next 85 years. Meanwhile, it will be extremely costly to American families and businesses, and particularly so for the poor Midwestern states, which rely more heavily on coal for electricity, and the manufacturing sector, which is on the threshold of renewed growth brought on by the oil and gas revolution.
Obama has maneuvered to avoid Senate ratification of a treaty. But regardless of one’s position on global warming, the Paris climate agreement is shortsighted and a bad deal for Americans and the world’s most vulnerable.



RE: Record Breaking Weather - Wonky3 - 12-06-2015

(12-06-2015, 10:41 AM)orygunluvr Wrote: Obozo says pay up suckers, I have billionaires I owe a lot of money to.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/12/04/5-facts-the-left-isnt-trumpeting-about-paris-and-climate-change/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thffacebook

ENERGYCOMMENTARY

5 Facts the Left Isn’t Trumpeting About Paris and Climate Change
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The Daily Signal?  Really?  Laughing




RE: Record Breaking Weather - cletus1 - 12-07-2015

Back to the weather. It's going to be around 80 degrees today and sunny. Get out and enjoy it. 


RE: Record Breaking Weather - tvguy - 12-07-2015

(12-07-2015, 11:15 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the weather. It's going to be around 80 degrees today and sunny. Get out and enjoy it. 

You aint in Kansas is you Razz


RE: Record Breaking Weather - cletus1 - 12-07-2015

(12-07-2015, 12:57 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-07-2015, 11:15 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the weather. It's going to be around 80 degrees today and sunny. Get out and enjoy it. 

You aint in Kansas is you Razz

Nope.   Big Grin More later, I'm going to the beach.  Smiling


RE: Record Breaking Weather - tvguy - 12-07-2015

(12-07-2015, 01:03 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(12-07-2015, 12:57 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-07-2015, 11:15 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the weather. It's going to be around 80 degrees today and sunny. Get out and enjoy it. 

You aint in Kansas is you Razz

Nope.   Big Grin More later, I'm going to the beach.  Smiling

Golds beach eh? Might be kind of windy, take a sweater. Big Grin


RE: Record Breaking Weather - Wonky3 - 12-07-2015

(12-07-2015, 01:08 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-07-2015, 01:03 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(12-07-2015, 12:57 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-07-2015, 11:15 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Back to the weather. It's going to be around 80 degrees today and sunny. Get out and enjoy it. 

You aint in Kansas is you Razz

Nope.   Big Grin More later, I'm going to the beach.  Smiling

Golds beach eh? Might be kind of windy, take a sweater. Big Grin

Eat your heart out Clete.
I'm heading for my hammock in the back yard right now, planning on spending a couple of hours reading. 
I only have on one pair of long-john's, canvas work bibs, heavy coat, gloves, ear muffs and a hand warmer. 
But...
I didn't have to go to the airport!  Laughing