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RE: I actually agree with Trump - Cuzz - 01-10-2019 (01-10-2019, 11:25 AM)SFLiberal Wrote:(01-09-2019, 08:32 PM)Cuzz Wrote: This is strange. I thought trump was supposed to be some ube-negotiator. I'm not seeing any negotiating skill what-so-ever. He seems more like an extortionist now. If he doesn't get what he wants he's going to hurt people and that's all he's doing. You definitely DON'T do it by running away. He's no negotiator, he's an extortionist. RE: I actually agree with Trump - tvguy - 01-10-2019 (01-10-2019, 08:25 AM)GPnative Wrote:I don't. I think his supporter will never turn on him no matter what he does. If he "caves" They will say it was because he had to. It was for the right reasons.. And they will be correct.(01-09-2019, 08:58 PM)tvguy Wrote:(01-09-2019, 08:32 PM)Cuzz Wrote: This is strange. I thought trump was supposed to be some ube-negotiator. I'm not seeing any negotiating skill what-so-ever. He seems more like an extortionist now. If he doesn't get what he wants he's going to hurt people and that's all he's doing. I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-11-2019 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-13-2019 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-14-2019 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-15-2019 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-17-2019 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-17-2019 ROFLMAO Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I actually agree with Trump - SFLiberal - 01-18-2019 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk RE: I actually agree with Trump - Cuzz - 01-19-2019 This is why a $5.7B trump wall will not appreciably change anything to do with drugs, murderers, illegal immigrants or terrorists. There are other reasons too but for those who think a wall is magical, it's really not. https://www.foxnews.com/us/30-unaccompanied-children-were-among-376-migrants-who-tunneled-under-border-wall-into-arizona RE: I actually agree with Trump - tvguy - 01-19-2019 (01-19-2019, 11:02 AM)Cuzz Wrote: This is why a $5.7B trump wall will not appreciably change anything to do with drugs, murderers, illegal immigrants or terrorists. There are other reasons too but for those who think a wall is magical, it's really not. I disagree that it will not do anything to do with illegal immigrants. Just because some people dug under the wall doesn't mean a wall doesn't do anything to appreciably change anything. There are many of other countries with walls and they say yes they do work. Do they stop everyone? No. I would think any new wall would be built with sensitive seismic detectors. It seems to me that border agents are the best options to stop illegals and with a wall it would take less of them. RE: I actually agree with Trump - chuck white - 01-20-2019 (01-19-2019, 02:45 PM)tvguy Wrote:(01-19-2019, 11:02 AM)Cuzz Wrote: This is why a $5.7B trump wall will not appreciably change anything to do with drugs, murderers, illegal immigrants or terrorists. There are other reasons too but for those who think a wall is magical, it's really not. This is why a wall won't stop drugs RE: I actually agree with Trump - chuck white - 01-20-2019 or people. RE: I actually agree with Trump - Cuzz - 01-20-2019 I really don't see any realistic improvement in the problems being argued about short of more boots on the front lines, so to speak. More border patrols patrolling the border. Any unmanned obstacle has weaknesses that are only alleviated by actually patrolling. But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant. Redundant is good if you have the money. I just think we have plenty things that need money more then redundancy right now. Besides the unwalled southern border isn't the biggest source of the problems. Putting buckets of money into the smallest problem and expecting big results is a losing game. Pick and choose. And that's what I think about that. RE: I actually agree with Trump - tvguy - 01-20-2019 (01-20-2019, 12:28 PM)chuck white Wrote:(01-19-2019, 02:45 PM)tvguy Wrote:(01-19-2019, 11:02 AM)Cuzz Wrote: This is why a $5.7B trump wall will not appreciably change anything to do with drugs, murderers, illegal immigrants or terrorists. There are other reasons too but for those who think a wall is magical, it's really not. I haven't said a wall will stop drugs. But actually I don't think the cartels would care about the relative tiny amount of drugs that drone will haul. They deal in TONS. RE: I actually agree with Trump - tvguy - 01-20-2019 (01-20-2019, 01:21 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I really don't see any realistic improvement in the problems being argued about short of more boots on the front lines, so to speak. More border patrols patrolling the border. Any unmanned obstacle has weaknesses that are only alleviated by actually patrolling. But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant. Redundant is good if you have the money. I just think we have plenty things that need money more then redundancy right now.I just don't see your logic. If I had to guard a section of a border all by myself. It seems obvious to me that ANY type of barrier that slowed down invaders would be a great help to me. RE: I actually agree with Trump - Cuzz - 01-20-2019 (01-20-2019, 02:45 PM)tvguy Wrote:(01-20-2019, 01:21 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I really don't see any realistic improvement in the problems being argued about short of more boots on the front lines, so to speak. More border patrols patrolling the border. Any unmanned obstacle has weaknesses that are only alleviated by actually patrolling. But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant. Redundant is good if you have the money. I just think we have plenty things that need money more then redundancy right now.I just don't see your logic. If I had to guard a section of a border all by myself. It seems obvious to me that ANY type of barrier that slowed down invaders would be a great help to me. That's OK, I struck that off the list of options a long time ago. RE: I actually agree with Trump - Scrapper - 01-22-2019 (01-20-2019, 01:21 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I really don't see any realistic improvement in the problems being argued about short of more boots on the front lines, so to speak. More border patrols patrolling the border. Any unmanned obstacle has weaknesses that are only alleviated by actually patrolling. But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant. Redundant is good if you have the money. I just think we have plenty things that need money more then redundancy right now.I agree 100%. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk RE: I actually agree with Trump - tvguy - 01-22-2019 (01-22-2019, 07:44 AM)Scrapper Wrote:I'm still stuck on this part...... But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant.(01-20-2019, 01:21 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I really don't see any realistic improvement in the problems being argued about short of more boots on the front lines, so to speak. More border patrols patrolling the border. Any unmanned obstacle has weaknesses that are only alleviated by actually patrolling. But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant. Redundant is good if you have the money. I just think we have plenty things that need money more then redundancy right now.I agree 100%. I think that this "adequate patrolling" concept will cost more than some walls and some patrolling. RE: I actually agree with Trump - chuck white - 01-22-2019 (01-20-2019, 02:45 PM)tvguy Wrote:(01-20-2019, 01:21 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I really don't see any realistic improvement in the problems being argued about short of more boots on the front lines, so to speak. More border patrols patrolling the border. Any unmanned obstacle has weaknesses that are only alleviated by actually patrolling. But if you have adequate patrolling then the need for a wall is redundant. Redundant is good if you have the money. I just think we have plenty things that need money more then redundancy right now.I just don't see your logic. If I had to guard a section of a border all by myself. It seems obvious to me that ANY type of barrier that slowed down invaders would be a great help to me. Yes, but is $4000 a foot worth the money. I would think a $10 a foot fence would be effective as well and could be a lot longer. |