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Re: What's in your garden? - Tia - 06-26-2009
cletus1 Wrote:Hey Tia, I was obviously only funnin ya bout the boyfriend.
I agree with TV, that the only way to know for sure is to test the soil. Very acidic soils will also not grow plants well, so it could be a combination of things. I have a moister/ph probe that I can push into the soil and get readings. This year I added lime to the soil mostly for the tomatoes to prevent blossom-end rot. Ph is best kept at 7 or neutral. Here is an OSU Extension Service fact sheet about end rot, not that it will help with your problem, but it is good info.
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/catalog/html/fs/fs139
I wish I could better research your garden problem, but it is difficult without enough information. When I do something new to my garden or plants, I leave a few plants or a small area "untreated" to allow me to compare and see what the effect of my meddling is.
Yes, I know testing is the answer, but I neither have testing 'things' and I doubt I'll ever get over to the extension. My opinion is it is the straw. I think the straw is decomposing still. I know that when decomposition is going on it can actually pull nutrients from the soil to aid in the process, thereby leaching the soil of nutrients. That's why they say to put fully decomposed compost on gardens. So, when the straw is finally completely gone, I imagine it will be great. (Next year!) So, I will continue to water, and hopefully continuing to replace soil will help the ph. I guess I underestimated how long the process of decomposing the straw would be.
Re: What's in your garden? - root - 06-26-2009
Some commercial seeds are the product of GMO procedures that are intended to insure that any second generation seeds will be sterile. Such is the case with Monsantoâ??s BT Corn. In this way, the producing company can reap larger profits as the famers have to buy new seed each year.
Re: What's in your garden? - elliemae - 06-26-2009
Monsanto is bad, bad, bad!
http://survivingthemiddleclasscrash.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/the-multiple-ways-monsanto-is-putting-normal-seeds-out-of-reach/
The terminator seed is supposed to improve their profit but it looks like a grab for world domination to me....control the food supply, control the people.
Re: What's in your garden? - root - 06-26-2009
elliemae Wrote:Monsanto is bad, bad, bad!
http://survivingthemiddleclasscrash.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/the-multiple-ways-monsanto-is-putting-normal-seeds-out-of-reach/
The terminator seed is supposed to improve their profit but it looks like a grab for world domination to me....control the food supply, control the people.
Thanks for the correct spelling.
I know a bit about Monsanto and their tactics, and I donâ??t like them at all.
But there is another viewpoint.
Starvation is bad too. Some of Monsantoâ??s innovation can be seen as attempting to lessen starvation.
If an enterprise spends resources (time and money) to produce a seed product that produces a greater volume of food, and in some cases is more resistant to pests, fungus, etc, more people get to eat, at least in theory. Should they not be allowed the profit?
These are not my views but what do you think about them?
Re: What's in your garden? - Tia - 06-26-2009
Quote:Monsanto is bad, bad, bad!
I agree.
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-26-2009
Snowlover Wrote:Where I live, we have never had snails.....slugs yes, but snails, no. Suddenly in the last two years I have been overrun with snails. How can you get rid of them? I have pets so I am worried about using snail bait. Suggestions???
I think earlier in the thread there was some talk about getting rid of snails.
If you leave pots upside down with a little room at the bottom they will crawl in there during the night, and there are beer traps...or...
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Determine which plants are favored by the snails and slugs in your garden by exploring your garden at night with a flashlight. While you're hunting, you can hand pick and destroy any creatures that you find.
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Step 2
Plan on using about four traps for a six-foot row in your garden. Locate one trap at either end of the row and two in the middle, on opposite sides of the row.
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Step 3
Dig a small hole in the soil around your prized plants with your trowel. Make it just big enough for a jar that will contain the beer to fit snugly, at an angle, so the lip of the jar is level with the ground. Dig one hole for each jar you want to serve as a beer trap.
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Step 4
Fill the jar(s) about half full with inexpensive beer
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-26-2009
Yes Tia I bet it IS the straw decomposing that is the problem.
Re: What's in your garden? - cletus1 - 06-26-2009
My cucumbers are also maturing really fast. I will have a few by Monday for sure. These are burpless (English) cucumbers this one is around 5 inches long. I typically harvest them when they are between 10 and 14 inches.
![[Image: HPIM0421.jpg]](http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee21/1cletus/HPIM0421.jpg)
Re: What's in your garden? - Tia - 06-26-2009
tvguy Wrote:Yes Tia I bet it IS the straw decomposing that is the problem.
The other thing is that the problem in uneven...there appear to be hot spots in some areas and others are not so bad...I'm hoping that adding the top soil will alleviate the problem. Probably next year will be great.
Re: What's in your garden? - tagalong - 06-27-2009
tvguy Wrote:Yes Tia I bet it IS the straw decomposing that is the problem.Do they salt straw like they do stored hay and if so, would the salt be a problem? I remember when my Boys put up hay for Ranchers they salted real heavily.
Re: What's in your garden? - cletus1 - 06-27-2009
tagalong Wrote:tvguy Wrote:Yes Tia I bet it IS the straw decomposing that is the problem.Do they salt straw like they do stored hay and if so, would the salt be a problem? I remember when my Boys put up hay for Ranchers they salted real heavily.
I never heard of salting hay, but I know that in ancient times a victorious army would plow salt into the fields of a conquered enemy. Salt ruins fertile fields and makes growing crops impossible.
Re: What's in your garden? - siskiyou - 06-27-2009
cletus1 Wrote:tagalong Wrote:tvguy Wrote:Yes Tia I bet it IS the straw decomposing that is the problem.Do they salt straw like they do stored hay and if so, would the salt be a problem? I remember when my Boys put up hay for Ranchers they salted real heavily.
I never heard of salting hay, but I know that in ancient times a victorious army would plow salt into the fields of a conquered enemy. Salt ruins fertile fields and makes growing crops impossible.
You've never heard of salting hay? Really?? :shock:
Re: What's in your garden? - cletus1 - 06-27-2009
siskiyou Wrote:cletus1 Wrote:I never heard of salting hay, but I know that in ancient times a victorious army would plow salt into the fields of a conquered enemy. Salt ruins fertile fields and makes growing crops impossible.
You've never heard of salting hay? Really?? :shock:
That is correct. I never heard of the practice of salting hay, which is not the same as saying that I do not believe that it is done.
Re: What's in your garden? - siskiyou - 06-27-2009
cletus1 Wrote:siskiyou Wrote:cletus1 Wrote:I never heard of salting hay, but I know that in ancient times a victorious army would plow salt into the fields of a conquered enemy. Salt ruins fertile fields and makes growing crops impossible.
You've never heard of salting hay? Really?? :shock:
That is correct. I never heard of the practice of salting hay, which is not the same as saying that I do not believe that it is done.
Hay is salted for a variety of reasons the main one is that the animals that eat hay like salt. Some farmers will salt hay if it is baled to early with too much moisture in it or if it is rained on believing the salt will help prevent the hay from molding and mildewing.......and also because cows and horses like salt. Now ya know.
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-27-2009
So you know all about salting hay but you can't post a picture of your runty tomatoes?
:shock:Also I'm thinking that haw and straw are too different things, but what do I know
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-28-2009
What's in my garden today? A baby bird that could barely fly on a sunflower plant.
![[Image: birdingarden1.jpg]](http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/treevolle/birdingarden1.jpg)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22 ... arden1.jpg
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-28-2009
Flowers on my potato plants....
![[Image: potatoeflowers.jpg]](http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/treevolle/potatoeflowers.jpg)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22 ... lowers.jpg
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-28-2009
An earwig trap made from the bottle of a one gallon milk container with some vegetable oil in the bottom.
![[Image: earwigtrap.jpg]](http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/treevolle/earwigtrap.jpg)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22 ... igtrap.jpg
Re: What's in your garden? - tvguy - 06-28-2009
And of course , my bud...
![[Image: mybud.jpg]](http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/treevolle/mybud.jpg)
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22 ... /mybud.jpg
Re: What's in your garden? - i heart bunnies ! - 06-28-2009
I so envy you people your gardens. There is no space where i live, just herbs on the porch.I love the photos though.