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Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Scrapper - 07-18-2011 http://twitter.com/KDRV Quote:BREAKING NEWS: 4-alarm structure fire at 1027 W. 10th Street in Medford. Fire and emergency crews currently on scene. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Valuesize - 07-18-2011 Quote:Emergency crews are battling to save six people pulled from a burning home on West 10th Street in Medford. http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110718/NEWS07/107180334 RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Scrapper - 07-18-2011 http://kdrv.com/page/218339 Quote:6 people were pulled from the burning home. It was a single-family home. CPR was performed on the victims before they were transported to an area hospital. It has been confirmed that a chaplain has been asked to respond. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - tvguy - 07-18-2011 I hope we don't find out some cheap ass landlord didn't have smoke detectors in his rental. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - PonderThis - 07-18-2011 I hope some cheap ass tenant didn't steal the batteries, as typically happens when they're not hotwired in. I think the law requires both now, and recently a carbon monoxide detector too. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - tvguy - 07-18-2011 (07-18-2011, 12:01 PM)PonderThis Wrote: I hope some cheap ass tenant didn't steal the batteries, as typically happens when they're not hotwired in. I think the law requires both now, and recently a carbon monoxide detector too. No the law does not require "hotwired" or what you mean to say is hardwired. Plus the smoke detectors that are now required have ten year batteries and I'm not sure about the law but there are SD's that you can't remove the battery. IMO that should be required for any rental. Also I don't think anyone is required to have a carbon monoxide detector unless there is a source for carbon monoxide. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Crone - 07-18-2011 Is this the same fire? Quote:Police say a woman and four children who were pulled out of a smoky west Medford home died of stab wounds and smoke inhalation. A man who was also pulled out of the home is still alive, they said during a press conference this afternoon. More details will be released as they are made available. http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20110718%2FNEWS07%2F110719962 RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Scrapper - 07-18-2011 http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/story/Medford-mother-and-four-children-pulled-from/jMq6CNTKnEeAUj8Ak_XqMw.cspx Quote:A mother and her four young children who were pulled from a burning house on Monday had stab wounds and died at the hospital, and the father was under police watch. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - tvguy - 07-18-2011 I expect this to go national. Husband in jealous rage murders four children and wife. Or something to that affect. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Snowlover - 07-18-2011 This is just sad and disgusting. I will never understand what some people do. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Valuesize - 07-18-2011 (07-18-2011, 11:56 AM)tvguy Wrote: I hope we don't find out some cheap ass landlord didn't have smoke detectors in his rental.We know now there was more to the story. FYI: It is a rental as they have released the names of the occupants and they are not the same as the owners of the house. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - PonderThis - 07-18-2011 This is on the national news now. http://news.yahoo.com/police-believe-oregon-father-killed-wife-4-kids-010924725.html;_ylt=ApiFgnvzvFsHCAQ_sGZovFWs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTM3bjhlcmVwBHBrZwM4NjM2NDc0NS05M2Q2LTMzN2ItODhiYi1jYjYyNDMyMDk3NjIEcG9zAzcEc2VjA1RvcFN0b3J5IEZQBHZlcgMwOTMyNmI4MC1iMWFlLTExZTAtOGRiYy0yZTBjODkxYjc5NDE-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3 Police believe Oregon father killed wife, 4 kids "MEDFORD, Ore. (AP) — Police believe a 51-year-old Oregon man stabbed his wife and their four young children and set fire to their house on Monday, killing all five victims. The man was hospitalized as authorities tried to piece together the frantic scene. Firefighters using CPR tried to revive the family members, and managed to get a pulse from at least two of the children as they lay on the lawn in front of their home, said Police Chief Tim George. "The front yard looked like it was a plane crash or something, the people working on those folks," George said. Rescuers quickly realized it wasn't just smoke inhalation they were dealing with and rushed the 30-year-old mother and the children — ages 2, 5, 6 and 7 — to the hospital. But all five died. The father was also taken to the hospital, where he was sedated in stable condition and under police guard, George said. Police believe he killed his family, but did not immediately charge him. "That is the suspicion right now — the fellow we have up at the hospital under guard is responsible," said George. Though autopsies will not be done for a day or two, it is believe the five dead were all stabbed and suffered smoke inhalation, police said. Investigators were getting a new search warrant before going back into the house Tuesday to gather more evidence, George said. The house is a small, plain one-story structure in a working class neighborhood of older homes, some of them undergoing renovation, several blocks from downtown in this city of about 75,000 in Southern Oregon's timber country. The father was identified as Jordan Adam Criado, 51, and his wife as Tabasha Paige-Criado, 30. The names of the children, three boys aged 7, 6 and 5, and a 2-year-old daughter, were not immediately released. Some neighbors said they thought Criado, who spoke with an accent, was a single dad, devoted to his children, and worked as a "shade-tree mechanic," fixing cars out of his home. A maroon minivan sat in the driveway with a broken transmission. A public records database shows that Criado has had addresses in Medford, and the nearby cities White City and Central Point since 2007. The records also show addresses in Sacramento, Bakersfield and Salinas before 2000, but nothing in the intervening years. About two weeks ago, Criado and his wife could be heard arguing loudly late at night, said Chris Bennett, 23, an Oregon National Guard infantryman who lives three doors down. "He just bluntly told her, 'Hey, you need to calm down, the kids are asleep,'" Bennett said. "It was always her yelling," said Bennett's fiance, Shilo Croswell, 22. "Anytime we saw him it was just him and the kids. Then we saw this woman. She kept asking him who we were, and he was not responding because he was talking to us." Bennett said last year his car broke down in front of Criado's house, and Criado advised him to check the fuses. One was burnt out and Criado gave him a replacement and wouldn't take any money for it. Bennett said the 7-year-old boy was a good student, and once said he hoped to be a doctor. Earlier in the morning of the fire, Criado called police to report his wife missing, said George. Officers located her a few blocks away at a convenience store, and gave her a ride home, George said. "They both met and conversed," George added. "What happened between 7:30 and 9:30 in roughly a two-hour time span is what we are trying to figure out right now." At around 9 a.m., Calvin Kennedy said he and other neighbors saw smoke coming out of the house and contacted police and firefighters, who had to don breathing apparatus to enter the smoke-filled house. "When I first saw it, all I could do was cry," Jennifer Backes told the Medford Mail Tribune as she watched the rescue efforts. "Never saw any trouble," Kennedy said. "It's just sad." RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Valuesize - 07-18-2011 From the story it seems to me the woman was the volatile one of the two. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - PonderThis - 07-18-2011 The story did make it sound like that. But if the woman only yells, but when the man snaps he stabs his family to death and sets the house on fire, who really was the volatile one here? Mind you, we don't have proof that's what happened, but that's what it's sounding like here. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - PonderThis - 07-18-2011 If only she hadn't yelled at him that one last time, this all could have been prevented? Where is Illc when we need him? RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Leonard - 07-18-2011 (07-18-2011, 08:54 PM)PonderThis Wrote: If only she hadn't yelled at him that one last time, this all could have been prevented? Where is Illc when we need him? We should not jump to any conclusions; the article says the police believe that he stabbed them but just to add a twist, perhaps she stabbed the children in a fit and he killed her out of rage for her actions. After all, from the articles she does sound the more volatile. Whatever, infanticide and killing innocent people are two of the worst crimes imaginable except in times of war where it is excused as the cost of doing business. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - PonderThis - 07-18-2011 Excellent points. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Crone - 07-19-2011 Quote:Suspect in 10th Street Killings is a Sex Offender http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110719/NEWS07/107190327 RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - snowhater - 07-19-2011 (07-18-2011, 12:25 PM)tvguy Wrote:(07-18-2011, 12:01 PM)PonderThis Wrote: I hope some cheap ass tenant didn't steal the batteries, as typically happens when they're not hotwired in. I think the law requires both now, and recently a carbon monoxide detector too. Since April all rentals that have an attached garage, wood stove, pellet stove or that has any natural gas hook-ups must have carbon monoxide detectors. RE: Medford - 4-Alarm Fire - Wonky - 07-19-2011 I admit to not having followed this closely. I wonder about the times in which we live. I have no real information about hard times and awful story' like this. I can't help but wonder if difficult financial hardships don't add to the stress that makes these things happen. I'm labeled as a "progressive liberal". So be it. I will pay taxes that help people during times like this, hoping that just maybe my contributions will make some difference. I have no idea what it's like to be extremely wealthy. I'd like to think that if I were, I'd want to make some sacrifice to make the general society more secure. And maybe this kind of attitude is simply not worth the time to type it or read it. I want to think "No man is an island", and we really are connected in many ways. Such a sad story, this. I hope to never read another local story like it. |