Site-wide rule changes: 3/2/2014
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Good afternoon! In preparation for the return of the Debate section of the site, the following two items have been reinstated as site-wide rules effective immediately:
  • Civility: Remain civil and respectful. Character attacks, stereotyping, rude behavior, and otherwise hateful content doesn't belong here. Do not post messages which are threatening, harassing, or intimidating towards another person - including threats of litigation or legal action.
  • Trolling: Don't post with the intent to cause negative reactions, to anger others, or to intentionally mislead or confuse. Don't abuse the quoting, editing, and reporting features through means such as false attribution, modifying context, and false or retalitory reporting.


(These rules were temporarily removed from the site-wide rules on 10/13/2013).

Thanks,

Kam
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#2
What about posts that a member PURPOSEFULLY makes up... and FALSELY attributes to another member? I have reported the offending post twice... and NOTHING has been done about it.
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#3
I believe that falls under abusing the quoting feature through false attribution.

Quote:Trolling: Don't post with the intent to cause negative reactions, to anger others, or to intentionally mislead or confuse. Don't abuse the quoting, editing, and reporting features through means such as false attribution, modifying context, and false or retalitory reporting.
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(03-14-2014, 09:49 AM)csrowan Wrote: I believe that falls under abusing the quoting feature through false attribution.

Quote:Trolling: Don't post with the intent to cause negative reactions, to anger others, or to intentionally mislead or confuse. Don't abuse the quoting, editing, and reporting features through means such as false attribution, modifying context, and false or retalitory reporting.

I realize that. My point was that the offending post has been reported twice in two days... and NOTHING has been done.
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#5
My posts were changed twice that I know of...
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(03-14-2014, 09:58 AM)Valuesize Wrote: My posts were changed twice that I know of...

Valuesize and Scrapper, do you mind linking the changed posts so I can see them.

The most common violation of the rule against false attribution was from posters that prefaced the changes in other peoples posts with "Hey I fixed that for you." I had done it a couple of time myself until I realized it violated the rules. In any case, I don't do it no mo. Really. Smiling
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(03-14-2014, 09:49 AM)csrowan Wrote: I believe that falls under abusing the quoting feature through false attribution.

Quote:Trolling: Don't post with the intent to cause negative reactions, to anger others, or to intentionally mislead or confuse. Don't abuse the quoting, editing, and reporting features through means such as false attribution, modifying context, and false or retalitory reporting.

Is it really misleading. What I mean is that does anyone actually believe something that was posted by another was what YOU posted.

Because I've seen someone complain about People quoting another, changing some words and then saying .. fixed it for ya.

When anyone reading it knew full well that the original quote was changed.
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#8
My false attribution violations were back in the days of anarchy. Rules weren't being enforced, and there was a very persistent troll. I would post immediately after the worst trolling remarks, with a quoted post attributed to that user saying "ha, ha! I'm an asshat!"

I've never really objected to the "fixed that for you" quotes, as long as the "fixes" are obviously marked.

Maybe we should start saying "Are you sure you didn't mean:" then follow up with an unattributed quote.
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(03-14-2014, 10:23 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Valuesize and Scrapper, do you mind linking the changed posts so I can see them.

http://www.roguevalleyforum.com/forum/sh...#pid333757

I don't remember where the other one is but it is just like this one, removing my photo and putting in a different one. All the regular posters would know what's up but I don't like someone new getting the wrong idea of me. Smiling
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(03-14-2014, 10:43 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 10:23 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Valuesize and Scrapper, do you mind linking the changed posts so I can see them.

http://www.roguevalleyforum.com/forum/sh...#pid333757

I don't remember where the other one is but it is just like this one, removing my photo and putting in a different one. All the regular posters would know what's up but I don't like someone new getting the wrong idea of me. Smiling

Yeah that seems definitely wrong to me.
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(03-14-2014, 10:23 AM)cletus1 Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 09:58 AM)Valuesize Wrote: My posts were changed twice that I know of...

Valuesize and Scrapper, do you mind linking the changed posts so I can see them.

The most common violation of the rule against false attribution was from posters that prefaced the changes in other peoples posts with "Hey I fixed that for you." I had done it a couple of time myself until I realized it violated the rules. In any case, I don't do it no mo. Really. Smiling

http://www.roguevalleyforum.com/forum/sh...#pid334641
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(03-14-2014, 11:16 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 10:43 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 10:23 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Valuesize and Scrapper, do you mind linking the changed posts so I can see them.

http://www.roguevalleyforum.com/forum/sh...#pid333757

I don't remember where the other one is but it is just like this one, removing my photo and putting in a different one. All the regular posters would know what's up but I don't like someone new getting the wrong idea of me. Smiling

Yeah that seems definitely wrong to me.

You could always report it. Big Grin
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(03-14-2014, 11:32 AM)csrowan Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 11:16 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 10:43 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(03-14-2014, 10:23 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Valuesize and Scrapper, do you mind linking the changed posts so I can see them.

http://www.roguevalleyforum.com/forum/sh...#pid333757

I don't remember where the other one is but it is just like this one, removing my photo and putting in a different one. All the regular posters would know what's up but I don't like someone new getting the wrong idea of me. Smiling

Yeah that seems definitely wrong to me.

You could always report it. Big Grin

I did, scrappers tooSmiling
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#14
Well, they've been deleted. Not "[redacted]" though. Just gone, as if they never existed.
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#15
So, I have posted on the Religion topic, and my posts are, under review? Is this not a place of free dialogue and exchange of ideas?
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#16
My goodness. I posted here at the help desk, and still, under review? Who is reviewing what I have to say, and why should my words be subjected so?

I was mistaken to think ideas were welcome.
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#17
I'd welcome them.
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(03-15-2014, 10:36 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: My goodness. I posted here at the help desk, and still, under review? Who is reviewing what I have to say, and why should my words be subjected so?

I was mistaken to think ideas were welcome.

Most likely because your first post was only a link. Rolling Eyes
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(03-15-2014, 11:04 PM)Tiamat Wrote: I'd welcome them.

Thank you.
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(03-15-2014, 11:05 PM)Valuesize Wrote:
(03-15-2014, 10:36 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: My goodness. I posted here at the help desk, and still, under review? Who is reviewing what I have to say, and why should my words be subjected so?

I was mistaken to think ideas were welcome.

Most likely because your first post was only a link. Rolling Eyes

Perhaps that was it.
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