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One Photo ID
#1
Who here does NOT have one?
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#2
I could describe the hoops I had to jump when I got my Oregon driver's license.

I think that perhaps you haven't been through this maze of paperwork that's now required post 9/11
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(08-20-2012, 08:52 PM)Clone Wrote: I could describe the hoops I had to jump when I got my Oregon driver's license.

I think that perhaps you haven't been through this maze of paperwork that's now required post 9/11

Yes I have. But once I got my passport in 2008, no problem.
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(08-20-2012, 08:52 PM)Clone Wrote: I could describe the hoops I had to jump when I got my Oregon driver's license.

I think that perhaps you haven't been through this maze of paperwork that's now required post 9/11

But more to the POINT. Answer the question.

Oh wait, you just did. Why don't you put a YES on the poll, to make it an honest representaion?
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#5
I didn't even notice it was a poll. Sorry.
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http://cms.oregon.gov/odot/dmv/pages/dri...proof.aspx

Required Identity Documentation for Driver License, Permit and ID Card Transactions

Overview

Every time you visit a DMV office to conduct business regarding a driver license, permit or ID card, you must bring proof of your current full legal name, your legal presence in the U.S., your identity, your date of birth, and your Social Security Number (SSN). If your address has changed since you were last issued a card, you must bring proof of your current residence address. All documents presented as proof must be original or certified copies from the issuing agency.

Use the links below to go directly to any section:
Proof of your Full Legal Name (What is Full Legal Name?)
Proof of your Legal Presence in the U.S., Identity, and Date of Birth
Your Social Security Number
Proof of your Residence Address
Homeless
Military Personnel (links to text on a different page)
Mailing Address
Resources for Obtaining Identity and Legal Presence Documents
Related Information
Click here for frequently asked questions about identity and legal presence requirements.
Proof of Your Full Legal Name
Your full legal name is your first name, middle name(s), and last or surname, without use of initials or nicknames.

You must provide additional documentation proving your current full legal name if it is different than the name shown on your proof of legal presence (see Proof of Your Legal Presence, Identity and Date of Birth below for more information).

Acceptable documents to prove your current full legal name include:
An official government issued marriage certificate/license (signed by a government official and including a filed date, stamp, seal or other notation showing that the document has been filed with a government agency);
A record of Domestic Partnership issued by Oregon Vital Statistics signed by a government official with a stamp or seal showing the document has been recorded with the State Registrar;
An out-of-state government issued record of Domestic Partnership signed by a government official with a stamp or seal showing the document was filed with the city, county or state agency responsible for registering Domestic Partnerships in that state;
A U.S. city, county or state court-issued divorce decree, judgment of dissolution of marriage, annulment of marriage decree, judgment of dissolution of domestic partnership, or annulment of domestic partnership;
A government-issued death certificate of spouse, that includes a connection to your current full legal name (signed by a government official and including a stamp to show that the document has been filed);
A U.S. city, county or state court-issued adoption decree;
A U.S. city, county or state court-issued legal name change decree;
A U.S. city, county or state court-issued custody decree or guardianship decree;
Oregon Driver License, Instruction Permit or ID Card;
Canadian government issued birth certificate;
Military ID card, Common Access card and Uniform Services ID & Privilege card (including all branches of military personnel and dependents, not including Merchant Marines);
Other U.S. state, U.S. territory, District of Columbia, Canadian or U.S. Department of State driver license, instruction permit or identification card;
Oregon Concealed Weapon permit/Concealed Handgun license;
Tribal identification card issued by a federally recognized tribe located in Oregon or with an Oregon affiliation, approved by DMV; or
Oregon County Community Corrections, U.S. Pretrial, U.S. District Court Probation Office, or Oregon Youth Authority proof of identification letter, approved by DMV.
All documents presented must be original or certified copies from the issuing agency. DMV has the discretion to reject or require additional evidence to verify your current full legal name.

If you are a citizen of, a permanent resident of or legally present in the U.S. and do not have the required documents to prove your current full legal name, you may be eligible for a temporary permit.

If you are having problems meeting the requirements for an Oregon Driver License, Permit or ID card, you can contact a DMV Customer Assistance Specialist by calling your local DMV office or:
In the Portland metro area call (503) 299-9999;
In Salem call (503) 945-5000; or
In the Eugene/Springfield area call (541) 686-7855.
Proof of Your Legal Presence, Identity and Date of Birth
Legal presence means that you are a U.S. citizen, permanent legal resident, or otherwise legally present in the U.S.

When you apply for a driver license, permit or ID card you must present at least one document listed below as proof that you are a U.S. citizen, Lawful Permanent Resident or that you are legally present in the U.S. for a temporary period of time.

Important Information if You Were Born in Puerto Rico
If you were born in Puerto Rico, your original birth certificate will no longer be valid after October 31, 2010. Puerto Rico began issuing new birth certificates with anti-fraud security features on July 1, 2010. As of October 31, 2010, Puerto Rico will consider all birth certificates issued before July 1, 2010, as invalid. For more information see the news release.

All documents presented must be original or certified copies issued by a federal, state or local government agency of the United States, with the exception of a foreign passport presented with an acceptable immigration document. DMV has the discretion to reject or to require additional evidence to verify your legal presence in the U.S., your identity and date of birth.

The following documents can be used as proof of U.S. Citizenship:
U.S. Government-issued birth document certified by a city, county, state or federal agency, including District of Columbia, U.S. Census Bureau or a U.S. Territory (American Samoa, Puerto Rico (issued on or after July 1, 2010), Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands, and North Mariana Islands), however:
The document cannot be laminated
DMV will not accept birth documents issued by a non-government agency, such as a hospital issued birth certificate, hospital issued birth card, hospital issued birth registration or a baptismal certificate
Birth documents from the Canal Zone are only acceptable if the birth was prior to 1980;
A U.S. Consular Report of Birth Abroad (FS-240);
A Request for Verification of Birth (DD372) that must include date/signature of recruiting officer, and signature, date and official seal or stamp of the issuing Vital record agency;
Report of Child Born Abroad of American Parent(s);
A valid U.S. Passport, Passport Card, Emergency Passport or Territorial Passport, expired no more than 5 years (the passport cannot be hole-punched, have clipped corners or be marked "cancelled"); or
A tribal ID card issued by one of the following:
Confederated Tribe of Warm Springs Reservation of Oregon
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians
Confederated Tribes of Umatilla Indian Reservation
Burns Paiute Reservation
Cow Creek Band of Umpqua Indians
Official Tribal Identification of the Klamath Tribes
Confederated Tribes of Grande Ronde Oregon
Confederated Tribes of Coos, Lower Umpqua, and Siuslaw Indians
Coquille Indian Tribe Enrollment Identification Card.
The following immigration documents can be used as proof of U.S. citizenship, U.S. naturalization, permanent lawful residence or temporary legal presence:
A valid Federated States of Micronesia (FSM) or Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI) or Republic of Palau Passport expired no more than 5 years (the passport cannot be hole-punched, have clipped corners or be marked "cancelled"), must include Arrival/Departure Record (I-94);
A valid foreign passport not expired (the passport cannot be hole-punched, have clipped corners or be marked "cancelled") and includes one of the following:
Arrival/Departure Record (I-94, CBP I-94A)
A page within the passport stamped “Processed for I-551”
Notice of Action (I-797A), (Note: The I-797 is the receipt received showing that you have applied for a change or extension of your legal presence. DMV will only accept the I-797A approving the change requested as proof of your legal presence)
I-94 or CBP I-94A stamped "Refugee" or "Asylee" or "Paroled Until" or "Parolee";
I-94 with attached photo stamped "Upon endorsement serves as Temporary I-551 evidencing permanent residency for one year"; or
One of the following U.S. Department of Homeland Security documents, not expired:
Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
Certificate of Citizenship
Resident Alien Card or Permanent Resident Card
Certificate of Naturalization
Permit to Re-enter (I-327)
Refugee Travel Document (I-571)
Identification Card of Resident Citizens in the United States (I-179)
U.S. Citizen Identification Card (I-197).
DMV verifies the completeness and authenticity of all immigration documents presented as proof of legal presence in the United States issued by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), United States Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS) and Customs & Border Protection (CBP). Verification is done using the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements Program (SAVE). DMV cannot issue a driver license, permit or ID card if the immigration document presented as proof of legal presence does not verify.

If you are a citizen of, a permanent resident of or legally present in the U.S. and do not have the required documents to prove your current full legal name, you may be eligible for a temporary permit.

Your full legal name is the name shown on your legal presence/identity document. If your current name is different than the name shown on your legal presence/identity document, you must present additional documentation proving your current legal name (see Proof of Your Full Legal Name above for more information).

If your date of birth is incorrect on your legal presence/identity document you must have the document corrected before it is acceptable as proof of your legal presence, full legal name, identity and/or date of birth.

For information about how to get proof of identity and legal presence, see Resources for Obtaining Identity and Legal Presence Documents below.

If you are having problems meeting requirements, you can contact a DMV Customer Assistance Specialist by calling your local DMV office or:
In the Portland metro area call (503) 299-9999;
In Salem call (503) 945-5000; or
In the Eugene/Springfield area call (541) 686-7855.
Your Social Security Number
When you apply for an Oregon driving privilege or ID card, you must provide your Social Security Number (SSN) on the application. DMV cannot issue a privilege or card if you do not provide your SSN for verification with the Social Security Administration.

All United States citizens, lawful permanent residents and legally present temporary residents authorized to work in the United States are eligible for an SSN. If you do not have an SSN and are eligible for an SSN, you must get one before DMV will issue a driving privilege or ID card.

If you are in the United States for a temporary authorized length of stay and not authorized to work you may be ineligible for an SSN. If you are not eligible for an SSN, you must present proof that you are not eligible for an SSN every time you apply for a driving privilege or ID card. In addition to providing proof of ineligibility for an SSN you are also required to sign a statement certifying you are ineligible for an SSN. The following is a list of documents DMV accepts as proof you are not eligible for a SSN:
A document issued by the SSA;
A document issued by a Federal agency or Federal court which demonstrates the customer is ineligible for an SSN;
An I-94, CBP I-94, CBP I-94A without the stamp noting Employment Authorized; or
IRS Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN). You may not use an ITIN in lieu of an SSN. If you are a lawful permanent resident of the United States or authorized for employment in the United States you are eligible for an SSN. If you do not have an SSN, you will be required to get one before DMV will issue a driving privilege or ID card.
Why is DMV collecting SSNs?
The Oregon Vehicle Code requires DMV to collect and verify your SSN if you apply for a driver license, permit or ID card unless you are not eligible for an SSN. If you are not eligible for an SSN, DMV must view proof that you are not eligible for an SSN.

If you refuse to disclose or apply for an SSN or the SSN you provide does not verify, DMV will not issue you a driving privilege or ID card.

Federal regulations require all persons applying for a commercial driver license (CDL) or CDL instruction/learners permit have a verifiable SSN, there are no exceptions.

Who will see my SSN?
DMV takes the responsibility to safeguard personal information very seriously. DMV employees receive training on how to safeguard records and are required to follow state and federal privacy laws. Your SSN will not be displayed on your driver license, permit or ID card, or released on DMV records. Access to your SSN is allowed only to qualified government agencies.
Proof of Your Residence Address
You must present proof of your residence address if:
This is your first time applying for an Oregon driving privilege or ID card; or
Your address has changed since the last time you renewed or replaced your current driver license, permit or ID card.
You must present at least one document from the acceptable proof of residence address documents listed below. Documents must:
Be originals or NCR (carbonless) copies where applicable;
Contain both your name and address (not acceptable if addressed "in care of", "parent of" or "for";
Be in ink, typed or computer/printer generated; and
Contain no alterations, such as erasures, different or varying handwriting, information crossed out, overstrikes, correction liquid or tape.
Acceptable proof of residence address documents include:
Any document DMV accepts as proof of legal presence or identity, such as, a U.S. passport or passport card or County Corrections Proof of Identity/Date of Birth letter, an Oregon Concealed Weapon Permit/Concealed Handgun License or military documents not expired over one year;
A verbal statement from any person residing at the same residence address you listed on your application. The person making the statement must accompany you and present one acceptable proof of residence address;
Oregon Driver License, Instruction Permit or ID Card-- not expired for more than one year. The driver license, permit or ID card can not contain an address change sticker with a mailing address that is different from your residence address;
Oregon Interim Driver License, Instruction Permit or ID card, not expired;
Oregon Temporary Driver License/ID/Permit (LP) not expired;
Oregon vehicle title or registration card. The title or registration card cannot contain a mailing address that is different from your residence address. You must be the primary owner on record;
Utility hook up order or utility statement issued by the service provider;
Any document issued by a financial institution that includes your residence address, such as, a bank statement, loan statement, student loan statement, dividend statement, credit card bill, mortgage document, closing paperwork, property tax statement, a statement for a retirement account, etc;
Any item delivered by the United States Postal Service, FedEx, or UPS sent by a verifiable business or government agency. The item must contain your first and last name and is acceptable with or without the envelope. Personal mail, such as mail from family, friends, yourself or neighbors is not acceptable. Mail from DMV cannot include a mailing address that is different from your residence address. Mail forwarded by the U.S. postal service such as yellow forwarding sticker, computer printed address change, or stamped address change is not acceptable;
Address change sticker from Oregon DMV cannot contain a mailing address that is different from your residence address;
Any document issued by an insurance company or agent, such as, an insurance card, binder, bill, etc. containing your residence address;
Any document issued by an educational institution, such as, transcripts, report cards, enrollment confirmation, etc. (does not include DMV Statement of Enrollment, form 735-7185);
A U.S. government-issued marriage certificate or license signed by a government official. The document must be an original or certified copy from the issuing agency;
Rental/Lease Agreement that includes the original signature of the lessor or landlord. If you present a photocopy the copy must include the original signature of the lessor or landlord;
A loan agreement, payment booklet/voucher, or loan statement;
W2 or 1099 tax form;
An Oregon Department of Consumer & Business Services (DCBS) issued manufactured structure ownership document that includes a site address that is the same as your residence address;
Oregon voter notification card or voter profile report - An application or certified registration to vote is not acceptable;
Selective Service card;
Medical or health benefits card (this does not include the CDL Medical card);
Unexpired professional license issued by an agency in the U.S.;
Current Certificate of Eligibility for Exchange Visitor (J-1) status (DS2019) must include immigration stamp and signature;
Approved letter from Oregon State Hospital, homeless shelter, transitional service provider or halfway house dated within 60 days of your application certifying your residence address. Must include a business card from the representative signing the letter;
Letter from Department of Veterans Affairs Rehabilitation Center & Clinics certifying your address if you reside at the facility. Must be dated the same date as application. Must include a business card from the representative signing the letter; or
Letter on company letterhead from an employer certifying that you live at a non-business residence address owned by the business or corporation. The letter must be signed by the human resources division or by your manager or supervisor and must include a business card of the person who signed the letter. The letter must be dated within 60 days of the application and must be the original letter with original signature (photocopies are not acceptable). A letter certifying that you live at the business address is not acceptable.
Mail must include your first and last name. Mail addressed with a "forwarding label" or an "address label" affixed to the envelope or contents is not acceptable.

Your residence address is the actual address where you physically reside. It is very important that you provide a good address when applying for a driving privilege or ID card. Failing to provide a good address will cause you to not receive your permanent driver license, permit or ID card. A mailing address may be used in addition to a residence address, but never in place of.

If you have an out-of-state residence and/or mailing address you must provide proof that you are a resident of or domiciled in Oregon. You must complete a Certification of Oregon Residency or Domicile (Form 735-7182) and provide acceptable proof. Acceptable proof of residency and/or domicile is noted on the back of the form.

If you provide DMV with an address that is determined to be an address of a mail service provider, false or fictitious or an address known to be that of a business, you may be denied issuance or your privileges or card may be canceled until you provide DMV with the address where you physically reside.

All documents presented must be acceptable to DMV. DMV has the discretion to reject or to require additional evidence to verify your residence address.

Homeless
If you are homeless, you may use a descriptive address such as "under the west end of the Burnside Bridge." If you use a descriptive address must also provide a mailing address and proof that you are a resident of or domiciled in Oregon.

You must complete a Certification of Oregon Residency or Domicile (Form 735-7182) and present acceptable proof. Acceptable proof of residency and/or domicile is noted on the back of the form.

Mailing Address
You must provide an address where you can receive your mail. Your permanent driver license, permit or ID card is mailed to the address that you provide on your application. A mailing address is acceptable in addition to your residence address.

The post office will not forward your driver license, permit or ID card.

If your mailing address is different or changes from the address you provided at the time you applied, you will not receive your card in the mail. It will be returned to DMV as undeliverable.

If you did not receive your license, permit or ID card in the mail and your residence and/or mailing address has changed, you must go to a DMV office to apply for a replacement card and pay the replacement fee. If your residence address has changed, you must present proof of your residence address.
Resources For Obtaining Identity and Legal Presence Documents
For information about birth documentation or proof of name change, visit: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/w2w.htm.

For information about passports, visit: http://travel.state.gov/passport/.

For information or to request a certified copy of a birth certificate from another state or a U.S. Territory or possession, visit: National Center for Health Statistics.

To contact the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), call:
National Customer Service Center (800) 375-5283; or
Consular Report of Birth Abroad (202) 955-0307.
All phone numbers are subject to change without notice..."
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#7
I have three.
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#8
And after you bring 2 pieces of verifiable ID, you don't have to do it again.
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#9
Such a simple process. I wonder how we could make this more difficult for minorities, poor people, transients, young people and anybody else that might be inclined to vote Democrat to go through. Ninja
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#10
(08-20-2012, 08:57 PM)Clone Wrote: I didn't even notice it was a poll. Sorry.

And still you insist on skewing to poll instead of honesty?
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#11
The forum involves a pretty involved group of people, so of course most of us have already gone through the hoops. As a poll, your statistical group here is practically useless if you're trying to compare to any real-world group of people.
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(08-20-2012, 08:59 PM)tvguy Wrote: I have three.

So vote in the poll. Gee, from this little experiment, I have to wonder about the validity of "polls". Hmm.
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#13
A piece of mail (like a bank statement or a bill of some sort), a birth certificate, and a social security card cannot be that difficult to come up with...if you had them to begin with that is. Smiling

My parents made sure that I had my original birth certificate and social security card upon becoming an adult, I did the same for my adult son. Not all that tough if you are responsible.
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#14
I found it damn near impossible to get my drivers license renewed when I was living on my off-grid property and getting my mail at a post office box because there was no street delivery there. In the end, I was forced to lie. There was no other way that I could see. And, that's not right, either.
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(08-20-2012, 09:03 PM)PonderThis Wrote: The forum involves a pretty involved group of people, so of course most of us have already gone through the hoops. As a poll, your statistical group here is practically useless if you're trying to compare to any real-world group of people.

Ick.

No I don't agree with your "real-world" group bullshit. ANY legal citizen can receive at least one photo ID with a minimal effort.

Voter ID is no more difficult, nor an infringement on voter rights, than opening a savings account.
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(08-20-2012, 09:04 PM)Larry Wrote:
(08-20-2012, 08:59 PM)tvguy Wrote: I have three.

So vote in the poll. Gee, from this little experiment, I have to wonder about the validity of "polls". Hmm.

I did vote, I guess I didn't follow through or something, so I did it again.

Hey ponder, did you really have to post all of that crap??? I'm going to wear out the bearings in my scroller if I have to go back to the top again.

Do you think people are too stupid to click on a link?
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#17
If it was simple, it would have only taken a few lines to explain. That's the point. It's not as simple as Larry wants to make it out to be.
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(08-20-2012, 09:09 PM)Larry Wrote:
(08-20-2012, 09:03 PM)PonderThis Wrote: The forum involves a pretty involved group of people, so of course most of us have already gone through the hoops. As a poll, your statistical group here is practically useless if you're trying to compare to any real-world group of people.

Ick.

No I don't agree with your "real-world" group bullshit. ANY legal citizen can receive at least one photo ID with a minimal effort.

Voter ID is no more difficult, nor an infringement on voter rights, than opening a savings account.

All you need is a freaking birth certificate. If you don't have one you need to send away and pay for one. I'm going to have to do that to get my motorcycle endorsement.
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(08-20-2012, 09:14 PM)PonderThis Wrote: If it was simple, it would have only taken a few lines to explain. That's the point. It's not as simple as Larry wants to make it out to be.

I just explained it in 1 1/2 linesLaughing
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(08-20-2012, 09:15 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(08-20-2012, 09:09 PM)Larry Wrote:
(08-20-2012, 09:03 PM)PonderThis Wrote: The forum involves a pretty involved group of people, so of course most of us have already gone through the hoops. As a poll, your statistical group here is practically useless if you're trying to compare to any real-world group of people.

Ick.

No I don't agree with your "real-world" group bullshit. ANY legal citizen can receive at least one photo ID with a minimal effort.

Voter ID is no more difficult, nor an infringement on voter rights, than opening a savings account.

All you need is a freaking birth certificate. If you don't have one you need to send away and pay for one. I'm going to have to do that to get my motorcycle endorsement.

It also takes a valid piece of mail from a utility company (or something comparable, that's the most common source) with your street address on it. In my case I had no utility bills, and virtually no other bills from suitable companies they would accept, as all my other mail was addressed to the P.O. Box, and not the street address. It was virtually impossible to comply, and in the end I gave them the address of another property I owned that I could provide those things for, even though I didn't live there at the time. You are in error.
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