Media Fail: Chevy Volt Makes NO Money, Costs Taxpayers Hundreds of Thousands of Dolla
#41
(07-19-2012, 06:35 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(07-18-2012, 10:19 PM)orygunluvr Wrote: 10 hours of coal fired generated electricity to go 35 miles is more environmentally friendly than burning 2/3 of a gallOn of gas?

Who's dense?

???
What the hell are you saying

Quote:There are 492 coal-fired power plants in the U.S., with an average size of 667 megawatts (MW) and an average age of 40 years.

Source: "Form EIA-860 Database, Annual Electric Generator Report," U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration,
2005 data set. http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity...ia860.html

From: http://www.energyjustice.net/coal/igcc/f...t-long.pdf


Are you saying it takes 10 hours of 667 megawatts to charge the battery?
Who's dense?

Obviously you are. It takes 10 hrs plugged into 120v and about 4 hrs in 240. BUT that is changing for 2013, the batteries are bigger so it will take longer to charge.
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#42
(07-19-2012, 07:08 PM)orygunluvr Wrote:
(07-19-2012, 06:35 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(07-18-2012, 10:19 PM)orygunluvr Wrote: 10 hours of coal fired generated electricity to go 35 miles is more environmentally friendly than burning 2/3 of a gallOn of gas?

Who's dense?

???
What the hell are you saying

Quote:There are 492 coal-fired power plants in the U.S., with an average size of 667 megawatts (MW) and an average age of 40 years.

Source: "Form EIA-860 Database, Annual Electric Generator Report," U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration,
2005 data set. http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity...ia860.html

From: http://www.energyjustice.net/coal/igcc/f...t-long.pdf


Are you saying it takes 10 hours of 667 megawatts to charge the battery?
Who's dense?

Obviously you are. It takes 10 hrs plugged into 120v and about 4 hrs in 240. BUT that is changing for 2013, the batteries are bigger so it will take longer to charge.
So it doesn't take 10 hrs of a coal fired plant. it takes 10 hours of 1/300,000 of a coal fired plant to charge the car.
big difference between 1 and 1/300,000
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#43
It costs about a buck fifty to charge the batteries on a Volt. With that you can drive 35 miles. Only half of the electricity you use is from coal.
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#44
I have and drive a 92 year old car. I'm typing on a laptop that with it's computing power would cost more than a house if purchased 25 years ago ( a guess). Point is starting points. Glad we got to where we are with the computer and that 92 year old car. I wonder what old Jeb said about a $500 car while looking at his mule? Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600. Before unions


Is this thread goofy, subject line???
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#45
(07-19-2012, 10:23 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I have and drive a 92 year old car. I'm typing on a laptop that with it's computing power would cost more than a house if purchased 25 years ago ( a guess). Point is starting points. Glad we got to where we are with the computer and that 92 year old car. I wonder what old Jeb said about a $500 car while looking at his mule? Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600. Before unions


Is this thread goofy, subject line???

Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600

That can't be right, can it? a Model A was only like 260 bucks.

Good point about the starting points of things.
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#46
(07-20-2012, 02:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(07-19-2012, 10:23 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I have and drive a 92 year old car. I'm typing on a laptop that with it's computing power would cost more than a house if purchased 25 years ago ( a guess). Point is starting points. Glad we got to where we are with the computer and that 92 year old car. I wonder what old Jeb said about a $500 car while looking at his mule? Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600. Before unions


Is this thread goofy, subject line???

Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600

That can't be right, can it? a Model A was only like 260 bucks.

Good point about the starting points of things.
I did a double take myself. Car prices were as now all over the board.
From Motor Trend,
1910: Cadillac (model year) is the first to offer closed-body cars, standard. 1910 Oldsmobile Limited seven-passenger touring car costs a hefty $4,600, and with its 60-hp, 707 cubic-inch inline six, beats the 20th Century Limited train in a race, earning its name.
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#47
(07-20-2012, 06:41 PM)Willie Krash Wrote:
(07-20-2012, 02:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(07-19-2012, 10:23 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I have and drive a 92 year old car. I'm typing on a laptop that with it's computing power would cost more than a house if purchased 25 years ago ( a guess). Point is starting points. Glad we got to where we are with the computer and that 92 year old car. I wonder what old Jeb said about a $500 car while looking at his mule? Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600. Before unions


Is this thread goofy, subject line???

Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600

That can't be right, can it? a Model A was only like 260 bucks.

Good point about the starting points of things.
I did a double take myself. Car prices were as now all over the board.
From Motor Trend,
1910: Cadillac (model year) is the first to offer closed-body cars, standard. 1910 Oldsmobile Limited seven-passenger touring car costs a hefty $4,600, and with its 60-hp, 707 cubic-inch inline six, beats the 20th Century Limited train in a race, earning its name.

Wow it really was expensive back then, So where are your pictures?Big Grin
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#48
(07-21-2012, 01:05 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(07-20-2012, 06:41 PM)Willie Krash Wrote:
(07-20-2012, 02:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(07-19-2012, 10:23 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I have and drive a 92 year old car. I'm typing on a laptop that with it's computing power would cost more than a house if purchased 25 years ago ( a guess). Point is starting points. Glad we got to where we are with the computer and that 92 year old car. I wonder what old Jeb said about a $500 car while looking at his mule? Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600. Before unions


Is this thread goofy, subject line???

Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600

That can't be right, can it? a Model A was only like 260 bucks.

Good point about the starting points of things.
I did a double take myself. Car prices were as now all over the board.
From Motor Trend,
1910: Cadillac (model year) is the first to offer closed-body cars, standard. 1910 Oldsmobile Limited seven-passenger touring car costs a hefty $4,600, and with its 60-hp, 707 cubic-inch inline six, beats the 20th Century Limited train in a race, earning its name.

Wow it really was expensive back then, So where are your pictures?Big Grin
I knew you'd ask and I really couldn't find that car. Maybe they sold like 5 of them. I did come across a couple of (rare) Carter Cars locally. One is for sale. 100% original from the upholstery to the paint. About 8x the cost of the Olds

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Maybe ????
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#49
I still wonder about the Stanley Steamer.

One would think that once the boiler is fired it would take very little fuel to keep it under pressure. (Strictly a guess. anyone know?) It could have tiny gasoline engine for immediate starts until it had a head of steam.
Must be some reason it's don't work.

I want a car that runs on beans.
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#50
(07-21-2012, 08:08 PM)Willie Krash Wrote:
(07-21-2012, 01:05 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(07-20-2012, 06:41 PM)Willie Krash Wrote:
(07-20-2012, 02:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(07-19-2012, 10:23 PM)Willie Krash Wrote: I have and drive a 92 year old car. I'm typing on a laptop that with it's computing power would cost more than a house if purchased 25 years ago ( a guess). Point is starting points. Glad we got to where we are with the computer and that 92 year old car. I wonder what old Jeb said about a $500 car while looking at his mule? Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600. Before unions


Is this thread goofy, subject line???

Hey a 1910 Oldsmobile seven passenger was only $4,600

That can't be right, can it? a Model A was only like 260 bucks.

Good point about the starting points of things.
I did a double take myself. Car prices were as now all over the board.
From Motor Trend,
1910: Cadillac (model year) is the first to offer closed-body cars, standard. 1910 Oldsmobile Limited seven-passenger touring car costs a hefty $4,600, and with its 60-hp, 707 cubic-inch inline six, beats the 20th Century Limited train in a race, earning its name.

Wow it really was expensive back then, So where are your pictures?Big Grin
I knew you'd ask and I really couldn't find that car. Maybe they sold like 5 of them. I did come across a couple of (rare) Carter Cars locally. One is for sale. 100% original from the upholstery to the paint. About 8x the cost of the Olds

I'm confused, I thought you owned the car? You said.. I have and drive a 92 year old car.
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#51
(07-21-2012, 08:32 PM)Wonky Wrote: I still wonder about the Stanley Steamer.

One would think that once the boiler is fired it would take very little fuel to keep it under pressure. (Strictly a guess. anyone know?) It could have tiny gasoline engine for immediate starts until it had a head of steam.
Must be some reason it's don't work.

I want a car that runs on beans.
[Image: steamcar2.jpg]
http://www.retrothing.com/2008/12/the-british-ste.html
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#52
Naw I own a 92 year old Ford. Can't afford the fancy stuff.
Here ya go Wonk, a steamer. They are quite fast once you get all that water heated..


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#53
We have one of these. Studebaker Big Six 1926. Not quite as old as yours willie, but still a kick.

[Image: Studebaker-1926-Big-Six.jpg]
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#54
Willie... are you saying you own an old Ford from the year 1992?!?! Laughing
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#55
Quote:?@MikeGrunwald
The @ChevyVolt has posted record sales three months in a row. But remember: no one will ever buy that governmentmobile.
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#56
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/21/ar...giveaways/
The Chevy Volt, which the Obama administration has hailed as the vanguard of its green-energy subsidy efforts, has had a bad month in the news. While GM announced a sales record for the plug-in hybrid for August, Reuters pointed out that the company was losing around $49,000 per vehicle in those sales, pouring red ink into an automaker that can’t deal with the money it already owes taxpayers. Fox News then reported that the sales record came in part because the Department of Defense began ramping up purchases of the Volt, making it look like another bailout was in process.

Earlier this week, Forbes discovered how GM was able to claim a record in the first place. The company has been practically giving away Volts in its lease program:
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#57
(07-23-2012, 08:00 AM)Scrapper Wrote: Willie... are you saying you own an old Ford from the year 1992?!?! Laughing
Nope,
1920.
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