Outrage grows at IRS 'targeting' of conservative groups

[SFLiberal]

See what you mean Scar, he is so busy on the stump he doesn't know whats going on..Red meat over substance.
As we know they are gullible. The truth just doesn't work. When you fill your taxes out on a post card who do you send it to?

So who is gullible? Nothing to see here, move along. Right?

IRS chief: Inappropriate screening was broad
By ALAN FRAM
— Jun. 24 3:30 PM EDT
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency said Monday.

In a conference call with reporters, Danny Werfel said that after becoming acting IRS chief last month, he discovered wide-ranging and improper terms on lists screeners were still using to choose groups for careful examinations. He did not specify what terms were on the lists, but said he suspended the use of all such lists immediately.

"There was a wide-ranging set of categories and cases that spanned a broad spectrum" on the lists, Werfel said. He added that his aides found those lists contained "inappropriate criteria that was in use."

Werfel's comments suggest the IRS may have been targeting groups other than tea party and other conservative organizations for tough examinations to see if they qualify. The agency has been under fire since last month for targeting those groups.

His comments also indicate that the use of inappropriate terms on such lists lasted longer than has been revealed previously. A report last month by a Treasury Department inspector general said agency officials abolished targeting of conservative groups with those lists in May 2012.

Werfel said preliminary results of an examination he has conducted of his agency have so far found no indication of improper screening beyond the IRS offices that examines groups seeking tax-exempt status.

He said he believes there was "insufficient action" by IRS managers to prevent and disclose the problem involving the screening of certain groups, but has discovered no specific clues of misconduct.

"We have not found evidence of intentional wrongdoing by anyone in the IRS or involvement in these matters by anyone outside the IRS," he told reporters.

The IRS has provided congressional committees investigating the agency documents related to the screening problems. He said work was continuing on removing sensitive taxpayer information from those documents, and he said he expects them to be released soon.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/new-irs-c...as-broader

[csrowan]

Lets get rid of screening criteria. For that matter, let's make it so that anyone who wants tax exempt status can just file a piece of paper saying so.

We don't need to put extra scrutiny on groups that are linked by name and who-knows-what-else to an outspoken political movement to make sure that they actually qualify for tax exempt status by not advocating for or against candidates, right?

[Willie Krash]

It seems issa forgot to mention the IRS was also using words like progressives in their search. Say it ain't true Darrell.

[csrowan]

It seems issa forgot to mention the IRS was also using words like progressives in their search. Say it ain't true Darrell.

And "Occupy" too.

[cletus1]

Now that the IRS scandal has been discredited along with Benghazi, what will the conservatives complain about; most of them are OK with the NSA surveillance program.

Is it possible that they can actually find fault with Obama for conducting a program that they basically support that was started by George Bush? I obviously don't expect an answer.

[SFLiberal]

Now that the IRS scandal has been discredited along with Benghazi, what will the conservatives complain about; most of them are OK with the NSA surveillance program.

Is it possible that they can actually find fault with Obama for conducting a program that they basically support that was started by George Bush? I obviously don't expect an answer.

Yep. Nothing to see here....... and yet the IRS employees keep taking the 5th.

IRS GREG ROSEMAN PLEADS THE 5TH

[Willie Krash]

There is an old adage about digging holes.
Is this all ya got? SFL.
If I was around back in the day I would have told Tail Gunner Joe the same.
Maybe something will turn up, this is just theater. Keep hoping.

[Willie Krash]

It seems Issa is now saying he never said this is connected to the WH.
Well onward to the next outrage.

[SFLiberal]

It seems Issa is now saying he never said this is connected to the WH.
Well onward to the next outrage.

I agree. Nothing to see here, move along.

IRS auditor reaffirms that conservatives, not liberals, were targeted

By Stephen Dinan

The Washington Times

Updated: 11:57 a.m. on Thursday, June 27, 2013

The IRS‘ auditor told Congress this week that it stands by its determination that conservative groups were uniquely singled out for special scrutiny by the tax agency, rebutting Democrats’ contention that liberal groups also were targeted.

The Treasury Department’s inspector general for tax administration (TIGTA) sent a letter Wednesday to congressional Democrats telling them that while several liberal groups may have gotten extra scrutiny, the IRS didn’t necessarily target those — but it did do so for conservative groups.

“TIGTA concluded that inappropriate criteria were used to identify potential political cases for extra scrutiny — specifically, the criteria listed in our audit report. From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you identified, labeled “Progressives,” were used by the IRS to select potential political cases during the 2010 to 2012 timeframe we audited,” Inspector General J. Russell George said.

He said that while 30 percent of groups that had the word “progressive” in their name were given extra scrutiny, 100 percent of groups with “tea party,” “patriot” or “9/12” in their names were pulled out for strict scrutiny, which involved what the IRS since has said were invasive and inappropriate questions.

Democrats have argued that the IRS‘ scrutiny of applications for tax-exempt status hit both ideological sides equally, which would cut at the GOP’s argument that it was politically motivated. Instead, Democrats have said the scrutiny is the natural result of a jump in applications after campaign finance rules changed following the Supreme Court’s ruling in the Citizens United case.

But Mr. George’s letter suggests that’s not the case.

“While we have multiple sources of information corroborating the use of tea party and other related criteria we described in our report, including employee interviews, e-mails, and other documents, we found no indication in any of these other materials that ‘progressives’ was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention,” Mr. George wrote.

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[Willie Krash]

No disagreement.
Issa said it was from the WH.
That has always been central to the outrage. Now the argument is they did look at conservatives more....OK But they did look at the left to...?
So now we have to turn the argument.
It is the way the right works. No WMDs in Iraq? Well we there to bring them democracy.
Who knows how the IRS story will be rebranded next week. Maybe they looked at some churches too, more Catholic than baptist.

Let me show you how it works, SFL, from your post,

"IRS auditor reaffirms that conservatives, not liberals, were targeted "
From the story,
"He said that while 30 percent of groups that had the word “progressive” in their name were given extra scrutiny, 100 percent of groups with “tea party,” “patriot” or “9/12” in their names were pulled out for strict scrutiny, which involved what the IRS since has said were invasive and inappropriate questions."

You wrote in post 40,

How can anyone approve of a government agency targeting fellow American's based solely on their political belief? This is what happened with the IRS with the blessing of the Obama administration. They took their cue from the CIC who called the opposition "the enemy". We are officially in the age of tyranny.

[tornado]

"We must all hang together, or we will all hang separately." Ben Franklin

[Willie Krash]

No disagreement.
Issa said it was from the WH.
That has always been central to the outrage. Now the argument is they did look at conservatives more....OK But they did look at the left to...?
So now we have to turn the argument.
It is the way the right works. No WMDs in Iraq? Well we there to bring them democracy.
Who knows how the IRS story will be rebranded next week. Maybe they looked at some churches too, more Catholic than baptist.

Let me show you how it works, SFL, from your post,

"IRS auditor reaffirms that conservatives, not liberals, were targeted "
From the story,
"He said that while 30 percent of groups that had the word “progressive” in their name were given extra scrutiny, 100 percent of groups with “tea party,” “patriot” or “9/12” in their names were pulled out for strict scrutiny, which involved what the IRS since has said were invasive and inappropriate questions."

You wrote in post 40,

How can anyone approve of a government agency targeting fellow American's based solely on their political belief? This is what happened with the IRS with the blessing of the Obama administration. They took their cue from the CIC who called the opposition "the enemy". We are officially in the age of tyranny.

I see Mr Issa's own witness has become a problem,

But those allegations seemed to quickly fizzle before Issa finished the first round of questions to D.C.-based IRS tax law specialist named Carter Hull and Cincinnati-based IRS employee Elizabeth Hofacre.

"Ms. Hofacre, to your knowledge, do you know of anyone that you would say had political motives in the role of treating tea party groups?" the chairman asked.

"No, I do not," she replied.

Hull was asked the same question and responded with the same answer.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/davi...ical-motiv

[Scar]

IRS Scandal News: Trail Leads to the White House

http://guardianlv.com/2013/07/99165/

The common theme connecting each scandal involving the US government has been that the White House was, allegedly, uninvolved and unaware – despite piles of evidence to the contrary. The latest news, concerning the IRS scandal, however, is that the trail leads directly to the White House.

that doesn't sound good

[csrowan]

The scandal that right-wing political groups were targeted along side left-wing political groups that were also being targeted? That scandal?

[Scar]

Don't look now

IRS Plot now DIRECTLY links to President Obama

http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/07/that-me...ent-obama/

The President’s defenders keep attempting to poo-poo the significance of the three-year ATF/EPA/FBI/IRS/OSHA, etc plot against Tea Party groups, first attempting to minimize it, then attempting to claim liberal groups were harassed as well, then spinning it as an isolated incident, without links to Washington. That final lie was destroyed when Obama political appointee IRS Chief Counsel William Wilkins was fingered as part of the plot.

Now Paul Caron of TaxProf Blog drops another bombshell: Wilkins met directly with Obama in the White House just two days before the plot kicked off in a meeting that “shouldn’t ever happen.”

[Scar]

Censored! IRS Scandal Being Buried by Big Three Networks

http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-...e-networks


The Big Three (ABC, CBS, NBC) networks have colluded with the Obama administration to censor the latest IRS scandal news. The latest: On August 13 The National Review reported that IRS official Lois Lerner “sent official documents from her government e-mail address to a personal account, according to House Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa and his colleague, Ohio congressman Jim Jordan.”

NR’s Eliana Johnson wrote that the GOP lawmakers sent a letter to Lerner demanding the non-official documents. In the letter Issa and Jordan told Lerner that “the lack of access to this information prevents the Committee from fully assessing your actions.”

Johnson also noted that “use of personal e-mail accounts to conduct government work also has the potential to imped federal-records requests by the public because personal accounts are not archived by the government.” ABC, CBS and NBC have yet to report on this story.

The following is a list of key developments in all of the IRS scandals and how many days it has been since they were discussed, if at all, by the Big Three on their morning and evening news shows:

[csrowan]

Whose personal account? Did she send it to someone else's personal account, or did she send it to her own? There are times I send stuff from my own business account to my personal account so I can access it on different devices.

[Scar]