06-21-2013, 09:20 AM
It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it.
11 year old autistic girl tased on 1-5
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06-21-2013, 09:20 AM
It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it.
06-21-2013, 09:21 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:12 AM)Tiamat Wrote: This is the tape that says the girl was husky and the troopers were surprised to learn her age. It says they assume in cases where a person is naked that they may be in a state of "excited delirium" and it also says that it was the child removing a screw from her window that allowed her to get out of the house. Yeah...that's OSP's CYA. If they had attended the training (that has been offered a few times in the past two years locally) in dealing with Autistic and/or mentally ill individuals, they would know that it is also commonplace for clothing to be removed due to sensory issues. They would realize the non-responsiveness is also a sign of Autism or other delays. Maybe they would have THOUGHT IT OUT before using force. 4am people, 4am! There is the key to this. Block traffic, and if you are scared...call for backup! This female police officer needs some retraining. I wonder if she is a rookie? Whatever...Tia is right...this will just all fade away. People don't really care about awareness. Let's just tase anyone who doesn't act "normal". ASSHATS!
06-21-2013, 09:23 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:20 AM)Scar Wrote: It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it. I realize you love to get reactions out of people, and that you know this is an emotionally charged subject for me in particular. Have you ever raised a child with any type of mental delays? If you haven't, you have no basis for even starting to blame with parents of this child. STFU, ASSHAT!
06-21-2013, 09:23 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:18 AM)Scrapper Wrote: http://www.oregon.gov/osp/NEWSRL/Pages/n...ement.aspx Thank you for sharing. This adds even more detail and bolsters my belief that under the circumstances the officer did her job and did it well. Thankfully this young girl was not badly hurt or killed.
06-21-2013, 09:23 AM
I understand that police need to make quick decisions, and it's easy to critique those decisions after the fact, when we have access to information the police may not have had and also don't have all the facts that they had available to them during the decision.
Still, I see a trend (at least in reported stories) of police escalating the situation quickly instead of slowly, and it's worrisome. I see repeated confirmation of police harassment, brutality, and profiling, and while I know not all officers are like that, I worry about the effect that's having on the public's view of police. So when a story comes around about a naked 11 year old girl getting tased and a witness says she was at no risk, I'm a bit upset that tasing was the first thing tried besides just asking her to stop.
06-21-2013, 09:24 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:13 AM)Leonard Wrote:(06-21-2013, 08:54 AM)PonderThis Wrote: Brutality is what cops do. We should be proud of them for that. It was a female officer.
06-21-2013, 09:27 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)csrowan Wrote: Still, I see a trend (at least in reported stories) of police escalating the situation quickly instead of slowly, and it's worrisome. I see repeated confirmation of police harassment, brutality, and profiling, and while I know not all officers are like that, I worry about the effect that's having on the public's view of police. The problem with drawing conclusions or recognizing trends in this manner is the fact that rarely, if ever, do we read or hear of the circumstances in which a police man or woman has DE-escalated a situation, and all ends well. All ending well in instances such as those, does not make the news, so our information is dramatically skewed towards the negative.
06-21-2013, 09:29 AM
Propaganda machine...check.
Covering our asses...check. ASSHATS!
06-21-2013, 09:29 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:21 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:12 AM)Tiamat Wrote: This is the tape that says the girl was husky and the troopers were surprised to learn her age. It says they assume in cases where a person is naked that they may be in a state of "excited delirium" and it also says that it was the child removing a screw from her window that allowed her to get out of the house. If only she'd had a tat on her ass that said "I'm autistic" this all could have been avoided. What an ASSHAT attitude your post portrays.
06-21-2013, 09:30 AM
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Subjective blame gaming. Check.
06-21-2013, 09:32 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:20 AM)Scar Wrote: It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it. I think the dad is at fault. He has had 11 years to figure out how to keep her from running and failed. So he either does not care for the child or he is really dumb. I mean no offense to you BZ, know that.
06-21-2013, 09:34 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:27 AM)gapper Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)csrowan Wrote: Still, I see a trend (at least in reported stories) of police escalating the situation quickly instead of slowly, and it's worrisome. I see repeated confirmation of police harassment, brutality, and profiling, and while I know not all officers are like that, I worry about the effect that's having on the public's view of police. I did say "at least in reported stories".
06-21-2013, 09:34 AM
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He could use chains. Maybe quit his job get food stamps and welfare to keep an eye on her. <sarcasm>
Maybe dad needs a Taser Scar.
06-21-2013, 09:36 AM
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(06-21-2013, 09:32 AM)Scar Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:20 AM)Scar Wrote: It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it. I tend to agree. Or, I could even go with "let's not blame anyone". The dad tried to do what he thought was best and it didn't work. The officer did what she thought was best and it worked. Now, maybe a more worthwhile discussion would be around what can parents of special needs children such as this one might do to really see that they are safe and secure? (no hand holding required, just sensible discussion would suffice)
06-21-2013, 09:39 AM
According to your criteria, we're not qualified to discuss this until we've had actual special needs children such as this one ourselves.
06-21-2013, 09:39 AM
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(06-21-2013, 09:16 AM)gapper Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:04 AM)Tiamat Wrote:(06-21-2013, 08:42 AM)gapper Wrote:(06-21-2013, 08:33 AM)Tiamat Wrote:(06-21-2013, 08:29 AM)gapper Wrote: I have a better idea. Let's not focus on the dad or the cop, and try to second guess them. Let's focus on the great news that a girl that was at a high risk of being killed was not. Well, the last few posts of this thread are pretty flaming. And without TV's help. But I wasn't trying to flame. I don't think your post is ridiculous. I just think the idea is ridiculous. I don't see how saying ridiculous is any different than saying "make absurd comments." That's just me though. I mean it's fine if you think it's a "better" idea to all come together and talk about how great it is that this girl is alive. That's fine. I just don't happen to agree that it makes for discussion. I'm not offended that people feel the parent are at fault nor for blaming the police. That's discussion.
06-21-2013, 09:40 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:32 AM)Scar Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:20 AM)Scar Wrote: It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it. Yes, I realize that...sorry for the over-reaction on my part.
06-21-2013, 09:42 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:36 AM)gapper Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:32 AM)Scar Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:20 AM)Scar Wrote: It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it. I'm good with lets not blame anyone. (Excuse my emotionally fueled posts earlier, I apologize.)
06-21-2013, 09:48 AM
(06-21-2013, 09:42 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:36 AM)gapper Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:32 AM)Scar Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:23 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:20 AM)Scar Wrote: It may seem a tad cruel to taze a youngster, butt she has a history of running and the wee amount of trauma she received may be what was needed to break the habit. Evidently the bad dad couldn't do it. No problem. I understand the passion involved.
06-21-2013, 09:48 AM
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(06-21-2013, 09:29 AM)gapper Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:21 AM)broadzilla Wrote:(06-21-2013, 09:12 AM)Tiamat Wrote: This is the tape that says the girl was husky and the troopers were surprised to learn her age. It says they assume in cases where a person is naked that they may be in a state of "excited delirium" and it also says that it was the child removing a screw from her window that allowed her to get out of the house. Point taken. I am upset over how few police officers actually show up for the trainings being held to help them ID those with Autism and how to deal with them. I did not see any OSP officers at the most recent one I attended. There were two or three MPD officers there, and a handful of fire fighters from the various local agencies. In Ashland, the officers actually paid someone to come train their officers a few years back. It is something worthwhile for the officers to learn. Not just dealing with Autism, but any delays/mental illnesses. ...and YES, by all means...the dad needs help in dealing with his daughter. I hope he reaches out for the help, or accepts the help that is sure to be offered by local agencies after this incident. |
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