Oregon high court to rule on immunization
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Quote:Oregon’s Supreme Court will decide whether the state has the right to immunize children despite a parent’s objection when the children are taken from the home because of parental neglect or abuse.

The case is called Department of Human Services vs. S.M. and R.M. It started in January 2012 when DHS case workers removed a couple’s eight children from their home in Marion County. The parents admitted to “various allegations regarding the conditions and circumstances of their children, who were between 1 and 8 years of age,” according to court documents.

DHS asked a juvenile court judge for permission to immunize the children at a review hearing in April 2012. The parents objected on religious grounds.

“You’ve done your research and I appreciate that, but I also know that now the children are in the custody of the state,” Judge Rex Armstrong told the parents. “I know that you’re not in favor of this, but I am going to go ahead and order that all the children be immunized as per the decision of the medical provider when the foster parents take them in for evaluation and immunization (and) that they be allowed to immunize the little children as well.”

http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/...munization
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I understand peoples reluctance to have their children vaccinated. But those people are in essence expecting the rest of society to subsidize their ability to do so, because disease prevention depends on a large part of the population being vaccinated. For this reason, people lacking vaccinations should be kept to a minimum. I think they should recognize the burden they're putting on everyone else to make up for their not being vaccinated, and perhaps compensate society for that privilege in some way as well.
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#3
If vaccines are so safe, why do we need a law to shield vaccine makers from law suits when people get injured from their product?

Quote:Recently several vaccines used worldwide have also been found to cause infertility, including the HPV vaccines and many of the swine flu vaccines.

http://vactruth.com/2013/07/20/vaccines-...fertility/

Quote:Bill Gates and Polio: ‘New vaccines can help reduce population by 10-15%’

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/03/06/bi...-by-10-15/
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(11-03-2013, 11:12 AM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Bill Gates and Polio: ‘New vaccines can help reduce population by 10-15%’

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/03/06/bi...-by-10-15/

You're getting an inference from Bill Gates statement I'm not getting: “The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”

I believe what Bill is inferring is that healthier people with better access to health care might help lower population, one of his stated goals (as anyone can see, there are already far too many of us, frankly). I commend him for choosing to spend his fortune in this way.
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(11-03-2013, 11:26 AM)PonderThis Wrote:
(11-03-2013, 11:12 AM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Bill Gates and Polio: ‘New vaccines can help reduce population by 10-15%’

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/03/06/bi...-by-10-15/

You're getting an inference from Bill Gates statement I'm not getting: “The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”

I believe what Bill is inferring is that healthier people with better access to health care might help lower population, one of his stated goals (as anyone can see, there are already far too many of us, frankly). I commend him for choosing to spend his fortune in this way.
Quote:1. An “informal” [e.g., illegal] clinical trial of the Avian Flu vaccine on about 200 Polish vagrants resulted in 11 immediate deaths and an additional set of 20 later deaths (approximately 15% of the test population). The doctors and nurses involved were charged with murder. (Fact. 2008)

2. Approximately 3500 Chinese children died in an Avian Flu vaccine experiment. (Rumor, 2008)

3. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)

4. The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its’ primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to “eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans”. (Fact, 1985-ongoing)

5. The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread481357/pg1

You can call his vaccines a 'reproductive health services' if you like.
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#6
You could call the flu a reproductive health service too, if that's the way you want to look at it (since, a certain number of people die from flu too).
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