Truths

[Scrapper]

SOME TRUTHS......

SIMPLE TRUTH #1

Lovers help each other undress before sex.

However after sex, they always dress on their own.

Moral of the story: In life, no one helps you once you're screwed.


SIMPLE TRUTH # 2

When a lady is pregnant, all her friends touch her stomach and say, "Congratulations".

But, none of them touch the man and say, "Good job".

Moral of the story: Hard work is never appreciated.


FIVE RULES TO REMEMBER IN LIFE

1. Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Ferrari than on a bicycle.

2. Forgive your enemy, but remember the butthead's name.

3. If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when they're in trouble again.

4. Many people are alive only because it's illegal to shoot them.

5. Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then neither does milk.


AND FINALLY:

Condoms don't guarantee safe sex.

A friend of mine was wearing one when he was shot by the woman's husband.

[Tiamat]

A bit of a hijack: On the topic of touching a pregnant woman's belly. My dil pointed out how incredibly invasive and inappropriate this is. She pointed out that normally people wouldn't come up to you and touch you. But somehow when you have a belly, you don't exist anymore and people feel your belly, which is really part of your body is open and free territory. She told me how violating it seemed. I don't know if I remember feeling that way, but I never thought about it. Now I'm very careful not to just touch pregnant bellies without asking first.

[TennisMom]

Hah, Tia, I remember people doing that to me and wondered what gave people the feeling that it was okay to do that.

"Roses are red.
So is wine.
Wine is red.
Poems are hard.
Wine."

[Smithcat]

A bit of a hijack: On the topic of touching a pregnant woman's belly. My dil pointed out how incredibly invasive and inappropriate this is. She pointed out that normally people wouldn't come up to you and touch you. But somehow when you have a belly, you don't exist anymore and people feel your belly, which is really part of your body is open and free territory. She told me how violating it seemed. I don't know if I remember feeling that way, but I never thought about it. Now I'm very careful not to just touch pregnant bellies without asking first.

My wife feels the same way about her guide dog. Others just come right up and start petting, with no thought to the danger of distraction. And her guide is also part of her, yet they seem to think that just because she has a dog in places where dogs are not common, her guide is magically transformed into a public petting zoo.

For her, the petting is invasive and inappropriate, plus can place her in danger when the guide is distracted and it takes her into a display or over a curb.

Some just seem to have no sense of boundaries or personal space.

[Tiamat]

A bit of a hijack: On the topic of touching a pregnant woman's belly. My dil pointed out how incredibly invasive and inappropriate this is. She pointed out that normally people wouldn't come up to you and touch you. But somehow when you have a belly, you don't exist anymore and people feel your belly, which is really part of your body is open and free territory. She told me how violating it seemed. I don't know if I remember feeling that way, but I never thought about it. Now I'm very careful not to just touch pregnant bellies without asking first.

My wife feels the same way about her guide dog. Others just come right up and start petting, with no thought to the danger of distraction. And her guide is also part of her, yet they seem to think that just because she has a dog in places where dogs are not common, her guide is magically transformed into a public petting zoo.

For her, the petting is invasive and inappropriate, plus can place her in danger when the guide is distracted and it takes her into a display or over a curb.

Some just seem to have no sense of boundaries or personal space.

Nice to point that out.

[csrowan]

A guide dog is going a job. You DON'T approach guide dogs doing their jobs. When they're sitting down, you might approach the owner and ask if it's okay to say hello to the dog, but that's about it.

Personally, I ALWAYS ask permission to say hello to someone's pet, whether they're a service animal or not.

[Tiamat]

A guide dog is going a job. You DON'T approach guide dogs doing their jobs. When they're sitting down, you might approach the owner and ask if it's okay to say hello to the dog, but that's about it.

Personally, I ALWAYS ask permission to say hello to someone's pet, whether they're a service animal or not.

Basic ettiquette, but not always observed.

[Prospector]

A guide dog is going a job. You DON'T approach guide dogs doing their jobs. When they're sitting down, you might approach the owner and ask if it's okay to say hello to the dog, but that's about it.

Personally, I ALWAYS ask permission to say hello to someone's pet, whether they're a service animal or not.

Basic ettiquette, but not always observed.

Very true. Service animals are to be admired but are working.

[tvguy]

A bit of a hijack: On the topic of touching a pregnant woman's belly. My dil pointed out how incredibly invasive and inappropriate this is. She pointed out that normally people wouldn't come up to you and touch you. But somehow when you have a belly, you don't exist anymore and people feel your belly, which is really part of your body is open and free territory. She told me how violating it seemed. I don't know if I remember feeling that way, but I never thought about it. Now I'm very careful not to just touch pregnant bellies without asking first.

My wife feels the same way about her guide dog. Others just come right up and start petting, with no thought to the danger of distraction. And her guide is also part of her, yet they seem to think that just because she has a dog in places where dogs are not common, her guide is magically transformed into a public petting zoo.

For her, the petting is invasive and inappropriate, plus can place her in danger when the guide is distracted and it takes her into a display or over a curb.

Some just seem to have no sense of boundaries or personal space.

Jesus Smithcat, I think people pet the dog because they love dogs or they are just being friendly.

[csrowan]

Good for them. They're idiots!

You wouldn't go up and pet a blind person's cane while they're using it to walk. You wouldn't borrow a deaf person's hearing aid while they're having a conversation.

You don't distract a service animal!



And quite frankly, you shouldn't assume any animal is friendly, or that even if the animal is friendly that the owner wants people to pet it.

[tvguy]

You wouldn't go up and pet a blind person's cane while they're using it to walk. You wouldn't borrow a dead person's hearing aid while they're having a conversation.

A dead person

Those analogies are silly Rowan.

[csrowan]

Bleh!

Fixed.

[PonderThis]

I have a personal affinity with dogs, have pet many dogs tied up in pickups, walked up and petted supposedly vicious dogs on chains, and if anything I like dogs more than people. Dogs recognize this in me, too. It's very hard for me to be near a dog and not at least let them sniff me, and receive a cursory pet. I do try hard to restrain this instinct with service dogs I know to be working, however.

[Scar]

I have a personal affinity with dogs, have pet many dogs tied up in pickups, walked up and petted supposedly vicious dogs on chains, and if anything I like dogs more than people. Dogs recognize this in me, too. It's very hard for me to be near a dog and not at least let them sniff me, and receive a cursory pet. I do try hard to restrain this instinct with service dogs I know to be working, however.

I hope you come across my pickup

[Scrapper]

I have a personal affinity with dogs, have pet many dogs tied up in pickups, walked up and petted supposedly vicious dogs on chains, and if anything I like dogs more than people. Dogs recognize this in me, too. It's very hard for me to be near a dog and not at least let them sniff me, and receive a cursory pet. I do try hard to restrain this instinct with service dogs I know to be working, however.

I hope you come across my pickup

Oh boy... now he's got some sort of killer dog to go along with his fake wife and illegitimate spawn.

[Smithcat]

Jesus Smithcat, I think people pet the dog because they love dogs or they are just being friendly.

Friendly is fine. Loving dogs is fine. We have no problem with friendly dog lovers. It is the unsolicited pettings and distractions that always accompany the friendly dog lovers.

Her guide acts as her eyes. He takes her safely around things, keeps her from walking into objects, and tells her when there is a curb, stair, or other change in elevation which could cause her to trip and fall. When her guide gets distracted by someone who just wants to be 'friendly' or who just 'loves dogs' when they try to pet him, calling to him, or otherwise distracts him from his job, she can be injured (or worse). She doesnt have her guide with her because she thinks it is fun, cute, or to satisfy her sense of selfish entitlement. She has her guide with her because she cannot see and he helps her do things that the 'normally' sighted do every day and seemingly take for granted. All she wants to do is go about her business like everyone else does, without having to worry whether her safety is going to be compromised by a friendly dog lover who cannot manage to keep their hands to themselves.

By the way, my first name is not Jesus.

[tvguy]

Jesus Smithcat, I think people pet the dog because they love dogs or they are just being friendly.

Friendly is fine. Loving dogs is fine. We have no problem with friendly dog lovers. It is the unsolicited pettings and distractions that always accompany the friendly dog lovers.

Her guide acts as her eyes. He takes her safely around things, keeps her from walking into objects, and tells her when there is a curb, stair, or other change in elevation which could cause her to trip and fall. When her guide gets distracted by someone who just wants to be 'friendly' or who just 'loves dogs' when they try to pet him, calling to him, or otherwise distracts him from his job, she can be injured (or worse). She doesnt have her guide with her because she thinks it is fun, cute, or to satisfy her sense of selfish entitlement. She has her guide with her because she cannot see and he helps her do things that the 'normally' sighted do every day and seemingly take for granted. All she wants to do is go about her business like everyone else does, without having to worry whether her safety is going to be compromised by a friendly dog lover who cannot manage to keep their hands to themselves.

By the way, my first name is not Jesus.

I totally understand. And I should have responded to Rowan who called people who want to pet the dog "idiots".

You only said they had no sense of boundaries or personal space. Well I agree but it's just ignorance. It would be one thing if someone stopped your dog to pet it while it was walking with your wife following. IMO that would really be idiotic.
But someone petting the dog while it was sitting by her side which I'm sure is not appropriate for a few reasons doesn't seem to me like a great crime. Especially considering most people are just wanting to be friendly.
That's all I meant

BTW my dog hates it when strangers try to pet her. On a leash she will evade them and hide behind me. off the leash she just runs from them. And if they keep on talking to her and trying to coax her she starts barking at them.
When I leave her in my car ( a station wagon) she goes all the way to the back so no one can reach her.
She doesn't think anyone has the right to touch her. I guess they really don't.

[csrowan]

You wouldn't go up and pet a blind person's cane while they're using it to walk. You wouldn't borrow a dead person's hearing aid while they're having a conversation.

A dead person

Those analogies are silly Rowan.

Silly analogies? Go read Smithcat's last post.

You wouldn't grab someone's steering wheel while they're driving, would you? A guide dog is eyes and driver for a blind person, among many other things. Distracting the guide dog is like waving your hands in front of the driver's eyes, grabbing the steering wheel, or yanking the shifter around. You're essentially removing their eyes.

So yes, going up to a blind person and petting their cane, interfering with the movements, making then think they're hitting a curb and veer off into the street. That's an analogy of calling a guide dog over to you while it's guiding someone, or causing it to be confused when it's on duty.

You DON'T mess with service animals. If you do, you're an idiot.




EDIT: A service animal at rest is still on duty. Guide dogs don't just guide while walking. Eyes are needed all the time.

[Smithcat]

You only said they had no sense of boundaries or personal space. Well I agree but it's just ignorance. It would be one thing if someone stopped your dog to pet it while it was walking with your wife following. IMO that would really be idiotic.
But someone petting the dog while it was sitting by her side which I'm sure is not appropriate for a few reasons doesn't seem to me like a great crime. Especially considering most people are just wanting to be friendly.
That's all I meant

My wife will sometimes let those who ask her if they can say 'hi' to her guide when he is sitting with her. A lot depends on the situation. If her guide has not been doing such a great job, she politely declines the visit, as her guide cannot get a 'reward' (the petting) when he has not been performing his best. But most of the time she will allow a visit.
It is the 'drive by' pettings that upset her the most.....the ones who reach out and cop a feel of her guide as she passes. These are the most dangerous as the dog can startle and be distracted long enough where she can be injured from coming into contact with an obstacle.

[cletus1]

You only said they had no sense of boundaries or personal space. Well I agree but it's just ignorance. It would be one thing if someone stopped your dog to pet it while it was walking with your wife following. IMO that would really be idiotic.
But someone petting the dog while it was sitting by her side which I'm sure is not appropriate for a few reasons doesn't seem to me like a great crime. Especially considering most people are just wanting to be friendly.
That's all I meant

My wife will sometimes let those who ask her if they can say 'hi' to her guide when he is sitting with her. A lot depends on the situation. If her guide has not been doing such a great job, she politely declines the visit, as her guide cannot get a 'reward' (the petting) when he has not been performing his best. But most of the time she will allow a visit.
It is the 'drive by' pettings that upset her the most.....the ones who reach out and cop a feel of her guide as she passes. These are the most dangerous as the dog can startle and be distracted long enough where she can be injured from coming into contact with an obstacle.

I never have and never would touch a dog of a blind person. It just seems wrong to me. If the dog sniffed me, I might say your dog seems to like me and that would be mostly just to let the person know their dog is aware of my presence.