Killer is now a great guy

[Wonky3]

Man convicted in 1998 Wolf Creek carjack murder to be set free.

"Walraven was only 14 years old when he carjacked Hull, owner of the Black Bar Lodge in Merlin, at gunpoint on a country road in Wolf Creek and then dispatched the 65-year-old man with a gunshot to the head, a crime that Walraven himself characterized in court Thursday as an execution."

"Witnesses repeatedly described Walraven as respectful and trustworthy. All said he likely would not commit new crimes."

Good. Let him sweep the chapel in the prison, and explain to other cons how to blow someone's brains out and not get blood and brains all over your shirt.

We have all been 14 years old. He make a tragic mistake, for whatever reasons, but somewhere in the middle of his sorry-ass brain is a bad spot.

He should stay in jail. If necessary I'll pay extra taxes to keep him there.

http://www.mailtribune.com/article/20140.../140919839

[bbqboy]

Agreed. I'd throw his mother in jail too, on general principle.

[kadylady]

Also.....agree. Executing someone is not a "stupid teenage mistake".

[tvguy]

There are people sentenced to LIFE all the time without the possibility of parole. Who sat in a car while their pals robbed and killed someone. They were the getaway driver but they were still just as guilty as the shooter.

In this case this 14 year old and his brother admit they premeditated this murder.

I have to wonder about the safety of this murderer once he is released. If someone shot my father or grandfather in the head in 1998 and was released as a free man I'm not so sure I wouldn't return the favor.





Unless you subscribe to the MMT you can't read the article Wonky posted a link to. Here it is................





CRIME
Man convicted in 1998 Wolf Creek carjack murder to be set free
30-year-old Trevor Walraven gets 'second-look' hearing, has 30-year sentence cut in half




Trevor Walraven admits to the court Thursday that he murdered Black Bar Lodge owner William Hull in 1998. Daily Courier / Timothy Bullard

By Shaun Hall
Grants Pass Daily Courier
Posted Sep. 12, 2014 @ 6:26 pm
Updated Sep 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Stunning observers in a Grants Pass courtroom Friday, Trevor Walraven had his 30-year sentence for the 1998 carjacking murder of lodge owner Bill Hull cut in half and was ordered to be released from prison in the next 45 days.

Walraven was only 14 years old when he carjacked Hull, owner of the Black Bar Lodge in Merlin, at gunpoint on a country road in Wolf Creek and then dispatched the 65-year-old man with a gunshot to the head, a crime that Walraven himself characterized in court Thursday as an execution.

Now 30, Walraven came before visiting Judge Timothy Gerking in Josephine County Circuit Court as part of a “second-look” hearing that allows juvenile offenders who were convicted of Measure 11 crimes as adults to seek early release after they have served half of their sentence.

Gerking said the killing was cold-blooded, but that Walraven was reformed.

The decision came after an all-day hearing Thursday in which a dozen or more witnesses testified on Walraven’s behalf.

During the hearing, District Attorney Stephen Campbell elicited for the first time a full confession from Walraven, who had steadfastly maintained his innocence of the murder, one of the most notorious in Josephine County history.

Walraven denied, however, that his brother, Josh Cain, took part in the killing. Cain, who was 18 at the time, is now serving a 25-year sentence for his role in the crime.

"I raised the gun," Walraven said during the proceeding. "(Hull) bent at the waist … as though he was ducking. I pulled the trigger."

"You shot him?" District Attorney Stephen Campbell asked Walraven.

"Yes sir," he replied.

"Right in the head?"

"Yes sir."

The description of what happened on that July day in 1998 was dramatic, but Walraven wasn't in court to detail the crime. Instead, he wanted to trumpet his good deeds since then. A parade of high-powered witnesses backed him up.

"He cares about giving back to this world," said Michelle Inderbitzin, an Oregon State University professor who teaches in the prison system. "I would be very happy to have him as my neighbor. I would like to see him back in the community to see what he can do."

Several prison officials testified on behalf of Walraven, president of the 150-member Lifer's Club at the prison, where he is a laundry room worker, electronics whiz and sometimes teaching assistant. Two other college professors working in the prison system testified on Walraven's behalf, as did two psychologists and his attorney, Peter Fahy.

"This is not the same person who committed this crime," Fahy told Judge Gerking.

Witnesses repeatedly described Walraven as respectful and trustworthy. All said he likely would not commit new crimes.

"If anybody deserves a shot, I would say Trevor Walraven deserves a shot," said Bill Marion, a prison recreation specialist.

Fahy took most of the day Thursday calling witnesses on Walraven's behalf. But, when Walraven took the stand near day's end, Campbell grilled him about the killing.

The attack was planned, Walraven said. He and his brother had discussed it.

"It was something that was talked about on a few occasions," he said.

Walraven said he alone acted to kill Hull while his brother slept at home.

The idea was to walk in front of a vehicle and then, when the driver stopped, to pull a gun, Walraven said.

"Was the plan always to kill the person you stopped?" Campbell asked.

"Yes sir," Walraven replied.

Hull, who authorities believe was taking a Sunday drive on his way to church in Grants Pass, happened by. Walraven said he pulled a handgun and pointed it at him.

"I walked around to the passenger side door," Walraven said. "I opened it up. I climbed into the vehicle. I believe he said, 'You don't need to kill me.' "

Walraven said he had Hull drive up isolated Rock Creek Road, where Walraven then shot Hull in the head and dumped the body over an embankment.

"Then where did you go?" Campbell asked him.

"I turned around and went back home."

"And got ready to go on a date," the prosecutor finished.

Walraven and his brother took two girls on a date later that night — they went to the movies and an arcade in Grants Pass, using Hull's vehicle. They later trashed the Chevrolet Suburban and abandoned it in the hills. After their arrest, the brothers claimed they found the vehicle.

Walraven said he told his brother what happened, and eventually told his father, too, before being arrested a few days after the killing. Doug Walraven and Karen Cain publicly maintained their sons' innocence, even after they were convicted. The elder Walraven died in 2006.

Walraven told Campbell he was a methamphetamine abuser with a criminal mindset, but was sober that day.

"You killed him … for a thrill, a power thrill?" Campbell asked him at one point.

"I guess, in a way," Walraven replied.

Walraven said he would get a job and live with his mother, if he is released. He said he'd love to work with convicted youths, advising them to avoid his errors. The most important thing to him, he said, was that he "never hurt anybody again."

Gerking, who is from Jackson County, heard the case in part because three of Josephine County’s four judges had conflicts in the case. One of them was Walraven’s attorney during his trial in 2000 and the other was the prosecutor. The third judge, Thomas Hull, is Bill Hull's brother.

Following the ruling, Walraven's mother, Karen Cain, hugged supporters in the sunshine outside the courthouse. She declined comment.

Members of Hull’s family left the courthouse without comment. It was not immediately clear if Campbell plans to appeal.

[Wonky3]

There are people sentenced to LIFE all the time without the possibility of parole. Who sat in a car while their pals robbed and killed someone. They were the getaway driver but they were still just as guilty as the shooter.

In this case this 14 year old and his brother admit they premeditated this murder.

I have to wonder about the safety of this murderer once he is released. If someone shot my father or grandfather in the head in 1998 and was released as a free man I'm not so sure I wouldn't return the favor.





Unless you subscribe to the MMT you can't read the article Wonky posted a link to. Here it is................





CRIME
Man convicted in 1998 Wolf Creek carjack murder to be set free
30-year-old Trevor Walraven gets 'second-look' hearing, has 30-year sentence cut in half




Trevor Walraven admits to the court Thursday that he murdered Black Bar Lodge owner William Hull in 1998. Daily Courier / Timothy Bullard

By Shaun Hall
Grants Pass Daily Courier
Posted Sep. 12, 2014 @ 6:26 pm
Updated Sep 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Stunning observers in a Grants Pass courtroom Friday, Trevor Walraven had his 30-year sentence for the 1998 carjacking murder of lodge owner Bill Hull cut in half and was ordered to be released from prison in the next 45 days.

Walraven was only 14 years old when he carjacked Hull, owner of the Black Bar Lodge in Merlin, at gunpoint on a country road in Wolf Creek and then dispatched the 65-year-old man with a gunshot to the head, a crime that Walraven himself characterized in court Thursday as an execution.

Now 30, Walraven came before visiting Judge Timothy Gerking in Josephine County Circuit Court as part of a “second-look” hearing that allows juvenile offenders who were convicted of Measure 11 crimes as adults to seek early release after they have served half of their sentence.

Gerking said the killing was cold-blooded, but that Walraven was reformed.

The decision came after an all-day hearing Thursday in which a dozen or more witnesses testified on Walraven’s behalf.

During the hearing, District Attorney Stephen Campbell elicited for the first time a full confession from Walraven, who had steadfastly maintained his innocence of the murder, one of the most notorious in Josephine County history.

Walraven denied, however, that his brother, Josh Cain, took part in the killing. Cain, who was 18 at the time, is now serving a 25-year sentence for his role in the crime.

"I raised the gun," Walraven said during the proceeding. "(Hull) bent at the waist … as though he was ducking. I pulled the trigger."

"You shot him?" District Attorney Stephen Campbell asked Walraven.

"Yes sir," he replied.

"Right in the head?"

"Yes sir."

The description of what happened on that July day in 1998 was dramatic, but Walraven wasn't in court to detail the crime. Instead, he wanted to trumpet his good deeds since then. A parade of high-powered witnesses backed him up.

"He cares about giving back to this world," said Michelle Inderbitzin, an Oregon State University professor who teaches in the prison system. "I would be very happy to have him as my neighbor. I would like to see him back in the community to see what he can do."

Several prison officials testified on behalf of Walraven, president of the 150-member Lifer's Club at the prison, where he is a laundry room worker, electronics whiz and sometimes teaching assistant. Two other college professors working in the prison system testified on Walraven's behalf, as did two psychologists and his attorney, Peter Fahy.

"This is not the same person who committed this crime," Fahy told Judge Gerking.

Witnesses repeatedly described Walraven as respectful and trustworthy. All said he likely would not commit new crimes.

"If anybody deserves a shot, I would say Trevor Walraven deserves a shot," said Bill Marion, a prison recreation specialist.

Fahy took most of the day Thursday calling witnesses on Walraven's behalf. But, when Walraven took the stand near day's end, Campbell grilled him about the killing.

The attack was planned, Walraven said. He and his brother had discussed it.

"It was something that was talked about on a few occasions," he said.

Walraven said he alone acted to kill Hull while his brother slept at home.

The idea was to walk in front of a vehicle and then, when the driver stopped, to pull a gun, Walraven said.

"Was the plan always to kill the person you stopped?" Campbell asked.

"Yes sir," Walraven replied.

Hull, who authorities believe was taking a Sunday drive on his way to church in Grants Pass, happened by. Walraven said he pulled a handgun and pointed it at him.

"I walked around to the passenger side door," Walraven said. "I opened it up. I climbed into the vehicle. I believe he said, 'You don't need to kill me.' "

Walraven said he had Hull drive up isolated Rock Creek Road, where Walraven then shot Hull in the head and dumped the body over an embankment.

"Then where did you go?" Campbell asked him.

"I turned around and went back home."

"And got ready to go on a date," the prosecutor finished.

Walraven and his brother took two girls on a date later that night — they went to the movies and an arcade in Grants Pass, using Hull's vehicle. They later trashed the Chevrolet Suburban and abandoned it in the hills. After their arrest, the brothers claimed they found the vehicle.

Walraven said he told his brother what happened, and eventually told his father, too, before being arrested a few days after the killing. Doug Walraven and Karen Cain publicly maintained their sons' innocence, even after they were convicted. The elder Walraven died in 2006.

Walraven told Campbell he was a methamphetamine abuser with a criminal mindset, but was sober that day.

"You killed him … for a thrill, a power thrill?" Campbell asked him at one point.

"I guess, in a way," Walraven replied.

Walraven said he would get a job and live with his mother, if he is released. He said he'd love to work with convicted youths, advising them to avoid his errors. The most important thing to him, he said, was that he "never hurt anybody again."

Gerking, who is from Jackson County, heard the case in part because three of Josephine County’s four judges had conflicts in the case. One of them was Walraven’s attorney during his trial in 2000 and the other was the prosecutor. The third judge, Thomas Hull, is Bill Hull's brother.

Following the ruling, Walraven's mother, Karen Cain, hugged supporters in the sunshine outside the courthouse. She declined comment.

Members of Hull’s family left the courthouse without comment. It was not immediately clear if Campbell plans to appeal.

Thanks for the help TVG.
I was not aware that the link would not open if one is not a subscriber. How cheap is that?
I was also not aware that the sun is the center of or universe, that watching PBS exclusively will not in it's self make a person smart, and that dogs don't like having their ears pulled.

But if figure in about two more weeks I'll know it all.

[tvguy]

There are people sentenced to LIFE all the time without the possibility of parole. Who sat in a car while their pals robbed and killed someone. They were the getaway driver but they were still just as guilty as the shooter.

In this case this 14 year old and his brother admit they premeditated this murder.

I have to wonder about the safety of this murderer once he is released. If someone shot my father or grandfather in the head in 1998 and was released as a free man I'm not so sure I wouldn't return the favor.





Unless you subscribe to the MMT you can't read the article Wonky posted a link to. Here it is................





CRIME
Man convicted in 1998 Wolf Creek carjack murder to be set free
30-year-old Trevor Walraven gets 'second-look' hearing, has 30-year sentence cut in half




Trevor Walraven admits to the court Thursday that he murdered Black Bar Lodge owner William Hull in 1998. Daily Courier / Timothy Bullard

By Shaun Hall
Grants Pass Daily Courier
Posted Sep. 12, 2014 @ 6:26 pm
Updated Sep 12, 2014 at 6:39 PM

Stunning observers in a Grants Pass courtroom Friday, Trevor Walraven had his 30-year sentence for the 1998 carjacking murder of lodge owner Bill Hull cut in half and was ordered to be released from prison in the next 45 days.

Walraven was only 14 years old when he carjacked Hull, owner of the Black Bar Lodge in Merlin, at gunpoint on a country road in Wolf Creek and then dispatched the 65-year-old man with a gunshot to the head, a crime that Walraven himself characterized in court Thursday as an execution.

Now 30, Walraven came before visiting Judge Timothy Gerking in Josephine County Circuit Court as part of a “second-look” hearing that allows juvenile offenders who were convicted of Measure 11 crimes as adults to seek early release after they have served half of their sentence.

Gerking said the killing was cold-blooded, but that Walraven was reformed.

The decision came after an all-day hearing Thursday in which a dozen or more witnesses testified on Walraven’s behalf.

During the hearing, District Attorney Stephen Campbell elicited for the first time a full confession from Walraven, who had steadfastly maintained his innocence of the murder, one of the most notorious in Josephine County history.

Walraven denied, however, that his brother, Josh Cain, took part in the killing. Cain, who was 18 at the time, is now serving a 25-year sentence for his role in the crime.

"I raised the gun," Walraven said during the proceeding. "(Hull) bent at the waist … as though he was ducking. I pulled the trigger."

"You shot him?" District Attorney Stephen Campbell asked Walraven.

"Yes sir," he replied.

"Right in the head?"

"Yes sir."

The description of what happened on that July day in 1998 was dramatic, but Walraven wasn't in court to detail the crime. Instead, he wanted to trumpet his good deeds since then. A parade of high-powered witnesses backed him up.

"He cares about giving back to this world," said Michelle Inderbitzin, an Oregon State University professor who teaches in the prison system. "I would be very happy to have him as my neighbor. I would like to see him back in the community to see what he can do."

Several prison officials testified on behalf of Walraven, president of the 150-member Lifer's Club at the prison, where he is a laundry room worker, electronics whiz and sometimes teaching assistant. Two other college professors working in the prison system testified on Walraven's behalf, as did two psychologists and his attorney, Peter Fahy.

"This is not the same person who committed this crime," Fahy told Judge Gerking.

Witnesses repeatedly described Walraven as respectful and trustworthy. All said he likely would not commit new crimes.

"If anybody deserves a shot, I would say Trevor Walraven deserves a shot," said Bill Marion, a prison recreation specialist.

Fahy took most of the day Thursday calling witnesses on Walraven's behalf. But, when Walraven took the stand near day's end, Campbell grilled him about the killing.

The attack was planned, Walraven said. He and his brother had discussed it.

"It was something that was talked about on a few occasions," he said.

Walraven said he alone acted to kill Hull while his brother slept at home.

The idea was to walk in front of a vehicle and then, when the driver stopped, to pull a gun, Walraven said.

"Was the plan always to kill the person you stopped?" Campbell asked.

"Yes sir," Walraven replied.

Hull, who authorities believe was taking a Sunday drive on his way to church in Grants Pass, happened by. Walraven said he pulled a handgun and pointed it at him.

"I walked around to the passenger side door," Walraven said. "I opened it up. I climbed into the vehicle. I believe he said, 'You don't need to kill me.' "

Walraven said he had Hull drive up isolated Rock Creek Road, where Walraven then shot Hull in the head and dumped the body over an embankment.

"Then where did you go?" Campbell asked him.

"I turned around and went back home."

"And got ready to go on a date," the prosecutor finished.

Walraven and his brother took two girls on a date later that night — they went to the movies and an arcade in Grants Pass, using Hull's vehicle. They later trashed the Chevrolet Suburban and abandoned it in the hills. After their arrest, the brothers claimed they found the vehicle.

Walraven said he told his brother what happened, and eventually told his father, too, before being arrested a few days after the killing. Doug Walraven and Karen Cain publicly maintained their sons' innocence, even after they were convicted. The elder Walraven died in 2006.

Walraven told Campbell he was a methamphetamine abuser with a criminal mindset, but was sober that day.

"You killed him … for a thrill, a power thrill?" Campbell asked him at one point.

"I guess, in a way," Walraven replied.

Walraven said he would get a job and live with his mother, if he is released. He said he'd love to work with convicted youths, advising them to avoid his errors. The most important thing to him, he said, was that he "never hurt anybody again."

Gerking, who is from Jackson County, heard the case in part because three of Josephine County’s four judges had conflicts in the case. One of them was Walraven’s attorney during his trial in 2000 and the other was the prosecutor. The third judge, Thomas Hull, is Bill Hull's brother.

Following the ruling, Walraven's mother, Karen Cain, hugged supporters in the sunshine outside the courthouse. She declined comment.

Members of Hull’s family left the courthouse without comment. It was not immediately clear if Campbell plans to appeal.

Thanks for the help TVG.
I was not aware that the link would not open if one is not a subscriber. How cheap is that?
I was also not aware that the sun is the center of or universe, that watching PBS exclusively will not in it's self make a person smart, and that dogs don't like having their ears pulled.

But if figure in about two more weeks I'll know it all.

The link will open for a while and then a box comes up and asks if you subscribe. You used to get like six free views free or something like that IF you signed up for that.
I don't know if they still do that.

[GPnative]

Judge Gerking should be removed from the bench, this is a disgusting decision and Walraven is a despicable, disgusting animal. He maintained his innocence up until only about 3 years ago when he realized he could game the system for an early release, then he started talking.

I could care less if he has been the Mother Theresa of prisoners, that is irrelevant, he executed a man in cold blood and never showed an ounce of remorse until his acting debut on the stand this week. He absolutely does not deserve to be out of prison. I can only hope there is an appeal or some such avenue that will be launched to keep him exactly where he deserves to be.

[Wonky3]

Judge Gerking should be removed from the bench, this is a disgusting decision and Walraven is a despicable, disgusting animal. He maintained his innocence up until only about 3 years ago when he realized he could game the system for an early release, then he started talking.

I could care less if he has been the Mother Theresa of prisoners, that is irrelevant, he executed a man in cold blood and never showed an ounce of remorse until his acting debut on the stand this week. He absolutely does not deserve to be out of prison. I can only hope there is an appeal or some such avenue that will be launched to keep him exactly where he deserves to be.

I doubt that it could be said any better than that!

[Hugo]

There is obviously something missing from this person's psyche. There is no way he miraculously "found" a conscience. He WILL hurt someone again.

[BeerMe]

Judge Gerking should be removed from the bench, this is a disgusting decision and Walraven is a despicable, disgusting animal. He maintained his innocence up until only about 3 years ago when he realized he could game the system for an early release, then he started talking.

I could care less if he has been the Mother Theresa of prisoners, that is irrelevant, he executed a man in cold blood and never showed an ounce of remorse until his acting debut on the stand this week. He absolutely does not deserve to be out of prison. I can only hope there is an appeal or some such avenue that will be launched to keep him exactly where he deserves to be.

Exactly....

A little info on the POS Judge from Jackson County. Appointed by the Governor who didn't want to pardon the last 18 months of Wendy Maldonado's sentence......

http://judgepedia.org/Timothy_Gerking

http://www.dpo.org/people/timothy-gerking

Jackson-Justice Bldg-Medford Timothy C Gerking (541) 776-7171 x 163

[chuck white]

They should let him out, it's not like he was selling pot.

[tvguy]

They should let him out, it's not like he was selling pot.

They should let you out

[Wonky3]

They should let him out, it's not like he was selling pot.

They should let you out

Yeah. A very flip comment about a very tragic and serious event.
Still Chuck, I know your sense of humor and doubt you meant to any way excuse this guys awful crime.
But, as Tia explains in another post, perhaps we should be careful about how we express our views. here.
Jes sayin'.

[bbqboy]

I understood Chuck just fine. I think he was careful and concise. And compact.

[chuck white]

They should let him out, it's not like he was selling pot.

They should let you out

Yeah. A very flip comment about a very tragic and serious event.
Still Chuck, I know your sense of humor and doubt you meant to any way excuse this guys awful crime.
But, as Tia explains in another post, perhaps we should be careful about how we express our views. here.
Jes sayin'.

Jeff Mizanskey is serving life without the chance of parole for a non-violent offense involving marijuana.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/25310999/miss...r-clemency

[Wonky3]

They should let him out, it's not like he was selling pot.

They should let you out

Yeah. A very flip comment about a very tragic and serious event.
Still Chuck, I know your sense of humor and doubt you meant to any way excuse this guys awful crime.
But, as Tia explains in another post, perhaps we should be careful about how we express our views. here.
Jes sayin'.

Jeff Mizanskey is serving life without the chance of parole for a non-violent offense involving marijuana.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/25310999/miss...r-clemency

And that's wrong!
But does not make an defense of letting killers free to live among us.

[minuteman]

Letting this guy out is a bad mistake. It sends the wrong message to others who might be inclined to do the same thing. whatever happened to the old adage, "Do the crime, serve the time"!

By the way, I was a friend of Bill Hull and he deserved far better. This was a terrible crime!

[Wonky3]

Letting this guy out is a bad mistake. It sends the wrong message to others who might be inclined to do the same thing. whatever happened to the old adage, "Do the crime, serve the time"!

By the way, I was a friend of Bill Hull and he deserved far better. This was a terrible crime!

All that's true Minuteman, but even more is that this guy deserves the PENALTY for his terrible actions. We don't lock up people like this to rehabilitate them. We put them away because THE PENALTY for a hideous crime like this is that they give up freedom for the rest of natural life.

[tvguy]

Letting this guy out is a bad mistake. It sends the wrong message to others who might be inclined to do the same thing. whatever happened to the old adage, "Do the crime, serve the time"!

By the way, I was a friend of Bill Hull and he deserved far better. This was a terrible crime!

All that's true Minuteman, but even more is that this guy deserves the PENALTY for his terrible actions. We don't lock up people like this to rehabilitate them. We put them away because THE PENALTY for a hideous crime like this is that they give up freedom for the rest of natural life.

Forget the punishment factor or penalty for a moment. IMO the biggest reason we lock them up is to protect society from people like this.
I believe our system fails sometimes like it did here. But it's never going to be perfect.
But! Someone needs to be accountable for the decision to let this animal out of his cage.

[Wonky3]

Letting this guy out is a bad mistake. It sends the wrong message to others who might be inclined to do the same thing. whatever happened to the old adage, "Do the crime, serve the time"!

By the way, I was a friend of Bill Hull and he deserved far better. This was a terrible crime!

All that's true Minuteman, but even more is that this guy deserves the PENALTY for his terrible actions. We don't lock up people like this to rehabilitate them. We put them away because THE PENALTY for a hideous crime like this is that they give up freedom for the rest of natural life.

Forget the punishment factor or penalty for a moment. IMO the biggest reason we lock them up is to protect society from people like this.
I believe our system fails sometimes like it did here. But it's never going to be perfect.
But! Someone needs to be accountable for the decision to let this animal out of his cage.

When you're right, you're right. (Very damn seldom )

The most important thing is to keep this guy, and people like him, off the streets.