Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Obamacare
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Supreme Court rules 6 to 3 in favor of keeping Obamacare as it is.  There are no articles on line yet. Anyway, this ruling is final. All the efforts to repeal Obamacare have failed and in looks like this is now the law of the land. Woohoo! I am glad for all the Americans that will be able to keep their health insurance. 
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(06-25-2015, 07:24 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Supreme Court rules 6 to 3 in favor of keeping Obamacare as it is.  There are no articles on line yet. Anyway, this ruling is final. All the efforts to repeal Obamacare have failed and in looks like this is now the law of the land. Woohoo! I am glad for all the Americans that will be able to keep their health insurance. 

GREAT NEWS! The Affordable Care Act is (IMHO) flawed and far from perfect, but it's a foundation on which our congress and other institutions care work to improve. In time I feel we will look back and see it as a watershed moment on our social awareness as a society, and it may in fact at some point become a model for programs around the world. 

SCOTUS was able to look past all the smoke and mirrors of those who saw this only as a political issue and we can be thankful that when the rubber meets the road our institutions often rise to reflect the very best of our system. 

We have become a nation of widening disparities of income, the rich getting richer and so many of the rest of us finding opportunities more and more limited. Programs like Obamacare will help level "the playing field" to some extent and we should echo Clete's enthusiasm is shouting, "Woohoo!". 
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2...-are-legal
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I'll be happy when our premiums begin to creep down (as promised) rather than up. (as is the case.)  Sad
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(06-25-2015, 09:16 AM)Valuesize Wrote: I'll be happy when our premiums begin to creep down (as promised) rather than up. (as is the case.)  Sad

Perhaps YOURS did (creep up). Many did. On the other hand there are some 30 million people who now have reasonable medical insurance coverage who didn't before this act passed. 
And many folks saw premiums lower. (I personally know of two) 

And example of this Act: My granddaughter works for a NGO in Cairo, Egypt, making almost no money but doing what she feels is "working in the fields of the lord". Because of the ACA she can remain on her parents insurance program for a time and continue for awhile to do the work she otherwise could not afford to do. 

But yes: There have been inequities and problems with the plan. It will get corrected. And remember: The BIG winners here are the insurance companies, and while I would have rather we had single payer option, this model is more in keeping with our capitalist system and if the insurance companies profit, so be it: Some of that profit will go to taxes as well as many of the employees who pay taxes. 

The ACA may never be perfect. It will be SO MUCH better than what we had only a few years ago. 
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The idea is that with millions(?) more paying what they CAN afford rather than nothing, premiums should go down. They're not. More profits for the insurance companies?
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(06-25-2015, 09:50 AM)Valuesize Wrote: The idea is that with millions(?) more paying what they CAN afford rather than nothing, premiums should go down. They're not. More profits for the insurance companies?

I just got hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of health care. For free. I was never asked to pay a dime.
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(06-25-2015, 12:25 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-25-2015, 09:50 AM)Valuesize Wrote: The idea is that with millions(?) more paying what they CAN afford rather than nothing, premiums should go down. They're not. More profits for the insurance companies?

I just got hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of health care. For free. I was never asked to pay a dime.

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(06-25-2015, 01:07 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(06-25-2015, 12:25 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-25-2015, 09:50 AM)Valuesize Wrote: The idea is that with millions(?) more paying what they CAN afford rather than nothing, premiums should go down. They're not. More profits for the insurance companies?

I just got hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of health care. For free. I was never asked to pay a dime.

Socialist pig  Laughing

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It's not just decent medical coverage... mental health help is just a co-pay away!   Eyebrows  Just sayin'...  Wink
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(06-25-2015, 02:27 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-25-2015, 01:07 PM)cletus1 Wrote:
(06-25-2015, 12:25 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-25-2015, 09:50 AM)Valuesize Wrote: The idea is that with millions(?) more paying what they CAN afford rather than nothing, premiums should go down. They're not. More profits for the insurance companies?

I just got hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of health care. For free. I was never asked to pay a dime.

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#13
Where are the forums Republican Obamacare haters. Stop crying and lets talk about this, OK?  Smiling
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(06-25-2015, 04:27 PM)cletus1 Wrote: Where are the forums Republican Obamacare haters. Stop crying and lets talk about this, OK?  Smiling

Oh, it will be talked about! The Speaker of the House vowed today he will continue to try and pass legislation to repeal the law that authorizes the ACA. 

But I suspect he has a problem. With this recent ruling by SCOTUS ObamaCare is going to improve as it become more widespread and some of the "kinks" get worked out. As more and more people come to understand the advantages of having compressive health insurance rather than waiting in emergency rooms, younger people will enroll in greater numbers. One significant key is that young people must be part of the plan. (Or pay the penalty). 

There is a downside. This is only going to work because of subsidies by the federal government and the federal government gets money only by taxing us. We (the middle class) can expect to see some increase in our federal taxes and the "umber" rich can expect to see significant increases. On the other hand, the insurance companies will find a windfall and taxes from that "industry" will help offset some of the cost. The medical "industry" too will prosper and pay taxes that will help. 

The end result? Positive. Healthcare will be cheaper "per unit" due to economy of scale, the population as a whole will be healthier and reduce costs, and we will finally right a moral wrong that has been with us for far too long. 
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