Donald Trump is a joke
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I'm beginning to think Trump is as surprised as anyone that things have come to this point. The man is a rooster, loves the limelight and showing off. I think he's in this for the ride not the win. Why would he want to hand over his fortune and his kingdom to someone else to control? Who would he trust?

So, what does he do to stay on the stage but not actually have to change jobs? Say stupid stuff? That doesn't seem to be working. Say stupider stuff? I don't know. Pick dumb fights with the Republican party leadership? insult people? alienate the majority of the female voters?

Wait a minute, he's already doing all that.  Eyebrows
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(08-09-2015, 06:52 AM)chuck white Wrote:
(07-15-2015, 07:28 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(07-15-2015, 04:11 AM)cletus1 Wrote: Laughing  Laughing God I hope he gets the nomination.

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Poll: Trump leads the GOP field but falters against Clinton
Susan Page and Erin Raftery, USA TODAY 3:23 p.m. EDT July 14, 2015

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump has surged to the top of a crowded Republican presidential field, a USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds, but the brash billionaire is also the weakest competitor among the top seven GOP candidates against Democrat Hillary Clinton.

In the nationwide survey, Trump leads at 17% and former Florida governor Jeb Bush is second at 14%, the only competitors who reach double digits. Trump's edge, which is within the poll's margin of error, is one more sign that his harsh rhetoric about immigration and toward his rivals has struck a chord with some voters.

"He's got some backbone," Steve Fusaro, 59, of San Clemente, Calif., who was among those polled, said approvingly in a follow-up interview. "We need a businessman."

But Buxton McGuckin, 19, of Columbia, S.C., who supports Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, expresses alarm at the potential repercussions of Trump's words. "I know he's a conservative and Republican but I mean ... the (stuff) that comes out of his mouth," the audio engineer says.

Trump has gained 6 percentage points since the USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll taken in June; Bush's support has stayed steady.

The survey of 1,000 adults, taken by landline and cellphone Thursday through Sunday, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. The sample of 349 likely Republican primary and caucus voters has an error margin of +/-5.25 points.

Trump's strengths and his weaknesses are on display.

While he leads the GOP field, he fares the worst of seven hopefuls in hypothetical head-to-heads against former secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the leading Democratic nominee. Bush, the strongest candidate against Clinton, lags by four points nationwide, 46%-42%. Trump trails by 17 points, 51%-34%.

That's a wider margin than Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (down 6 points), former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee (8 points), Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (9 points), Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (10 points) and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson (13 points).

Nearly half of all those surveyed, 48%, say Trump's comments about illegal immigrants, including characterizing Mexicans as rapists and drug dealers, matter a lot to their vote. Just 15% say the comments make them more likely to support him; 48% say they make them less likely.

"We've seen Donald Trump make it to the top, but the question is can he stay on top," says David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center. "In 2012, Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain led the GOP primary field briefly but only to fade."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit.../30102255/

I give that a hearty second!

After all, he is renowned for his broad knowledge of world affairs, has vast experience of service in the public sector so we can get a sense of his history in making policy and administering agencies, has shown his understanding and compassion for those less fortunate that he, and often demonstrated his cool and composed demeanor in critical situations. 

The man of the hour, without a doubt. 

I may put up a lawn sign endorsing him. 

Oh happy day!  Laughing Laughing Laughing

Whatever. 


Were you really considering voting for him anyway?

You not only missed the point, you missed the road that lead to it. 
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#44
"Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?
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#45
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  
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(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

He's always has been on the giving side of bribes, now he'll have to handle the receiving end for a change.
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(08-23-2015, 02:59 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  

I'll never forget all of those wonderful programs: ? ? ? ? ?
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(08-23-2015, 08:35 PM)tornado Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 02:59 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  

I'll never forget all of those wonderful programs: ? ? ? ? ?

I won't bother with rebuttal. 
Your history proves you would be unhappy if he came and painted your house, changed oil in our car, and gave you a puppy. 
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(08-24-2015, 07:53 AM)Scrapper Wrote: [Image: 11949416_1647177918861463_29872177011128...e=566ECF96]

Wow. A VICIOUS photo-shop exercise. I guess now they won't be talking about his hair so much. 
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#51
Why do you assume it is photoshopped?
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(08-24-2015, 08:33 AM)bbqboy Wrote: Why do you assume it is photoshopped?

BwaHaHaHa!!!  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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#53
(08-23-2015, 02:59 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  
Home ownership is at a 50 year low, food stamps are at an all time high.   Labor participation rate was as low as of June 2015 as it was almost 40 years ago, the black unemployment rate is at twice the national average.  Our friends don't trust us and our enemies don't fear us, and the racial divide has widen under Obama.  Ya.  Obama has done a remarkable job...  On a side note he has golfed over 1100 hours.  The green keepers are doing OK.
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#54
Tell me again how a President creates
jobs. What you are describing is a result of Republican policies.
Sfl- suddenly a populist
A man of the people. Too funny.
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#55
(08-24-2015, 09:05 AM)SFLiberal Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 02:59 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  
Home ownership is at a 50 year low, food stamps are at an all time high.   Labor participation rate was as low as of June 2015 as it was almost 40 years ago, the black unemployment rate is at twice the national average.  Our friends don't trust us and our enemies don't fear us, and the racial divide has widen under Obama.  Ya.  Obama has done a remarkable job...  On a side note he has golfed over 1100 hours.  The green keepers are doing OK.

How you can throw this opinion crap in with what are apparently facts amazes me. And how you can assume all the other stuff is all Obama's fault also amazes me.
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#56
Trump Fans Who Beat Up Mexican Immigrant Apparently Lived Illegally in Public Housing


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The two brothers from Boston who were arrested early Wednesday for allegedly severely beating a homeless Hispanic man do not appear to exactly be law-abiding citizens. Steve and Scott Leader of South Boston are now being investigated under suspicion of living illegally in public housing. The Boston Globe explains:

Quote:After their arrest, the Leader brothers told State Police that they lived in public housing, but records show that only their mother is listed as a resident. Housing officials said she now faces eviction proceedings.

Quote:The Boston Housing Authority requires lease holders to list all residents and to pay their fair share of the rent, because public housing is for needy families whose average income is $14,000 a year. Some 36,000 people are on the waiting list for housing. Police records say Scott is a mason and Steve, 30, is a carpenter.

Quote:“Based on the police report and other information, there’s reason to believe that the Leader brothers were living at the Mary Ellen McCormack development illegally,” Lydia Agro, the housing authority chief of staff, said Friday.

Prosecutors have charged the brothers with multiple counts of assault, hate crimes, indecent exposure and making threats after they woke up a homeless man, punched him and urinated on his face. One of the brothers allegedly told police it was OK to do what they did because “Donald Trump was right, all these illegals need to be deported.” The victim, a 58-year-old Mexican immigrant, has apparently lived in the United States since the 1980s and is recovering from his injuries.

“His spirit is good. He’s a man with a huge heart,” Daniel Hernández Joseph, the consul general of Mexico in Boston, tells the Boston Globe. “And he doesn’t seem to hold any anger or grudge. He simply expressed concern that it doesn’t happen to anybody else.”
Trump condemned the attack on Friday, writing on Twitter that he would never condone violence. The real estate mogul had come under much criticism for how he responded to attack earlier in the week. Saying he hadn’t heard of the incident, Trump said “it would be a shame” before adding that “people who are following me are very passionate. They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.”
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#57
He's a fool
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#58
(08-24-2015, 04:52 PM)BeerMe Wrote: He's a fool

Yeah unlike all the other guys he's running for pres with Laughing
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(08-23-2015, 02:59 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  

I question his "effectiveness" on the subject of the "programs".

If you consider it a "success" to have MORE people on welfare and food stamps a success, they I admit you are correct.

If you define success by more people being OFF of welfare and OFF food stamps, then he is an abject failure.  HOWEVER.... if you need more people on the government dole to further your socialist agenda, then again, I agree, he has been successful.
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(08-24-2015, 06:58 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 02:59 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(08-23-2015, 12:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: "Zero experience" in what? A corrupt political system that relies on lobbyists and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours tactics?

What experience did the great Obanga have?

Not enough. A bright young man with a very good education and some valuable experience "down at the street level", I think his lack of executive experience has been a problem during his years in the white house. 

And yet, I think he brought a sense of considered judgement and the ability to gather and process information that is remarkable. Often criticized because he failed to act, I admire him for his caution to not wade into problems that the previous administration was so eager to do. ISIS is raging unmolested in the middle east and it's a tragic event. Yet, I'm thankful this president has not wasted young American lives by inserting them into what is a complex hopeless quagmire.

This president has made a lot of mistakes and lack of executive leadership is without a doubt one. He has done of lot of things to help advance programs we need and for that I think he will be remembered as effective.  

I question his "effectiveness" on the subject of the "programs".

If you consider it a "success" to have MORE people on welfare and food stamps a success, they I admit you are correct.

If you define success by more people being OFF of welfare and OFF food stamps, then he is an abject failure.  HOWEVER.... if you need more people on the government dole to further your socialist agenda, then again, I agree, he has been successful.

I really don't want to argue this to a fine point, but the fact is this administration came in during a national crisis that had our economy on the brink. Starting in the hole makes a difficult challenge. 
We have recovered in some limited way and have a health care plan in place that is deeply flawed but can (so the experts tell us) be "tweaked" and someday a model for others to follow. 
But, there is no need to banter this about and end up in a pissing match. Your political values are much different that the Democratic administration in office and I doubt you would be happy with ANYTHING they did. 
And that's a good thing when all is said and done. We need the continued tension of Hamilton and Jefferson and the eventual compromise between the positions is what has made this country great. 

But I do object to your again using "Your socialist agenda". Social programs do not define a society as "socialist". But, we've hashed and rehashed this far too many times. We differ: I hope we canLet it rest. 
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