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(05-05-2019, 09:30 AM)bbqboy Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 09:12 AM)Juniper Wrote:
bbqboy Wrote:http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/d..._medium=s1

I kept thinking of Wonky, wondering how excited he must be with a new book by his favorite political pundit.
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The problem with Wonky, was that he could bring a really interesting topic to the table and then pound you over the head with it.
When it’s 1972 in your head, strange things happen. David Brooks and Wonky seem kindred spirits, believing in a genteel and ethical World that doesn’t exist now, if it ever did.

The bashing and the genteel part are at odds with each other.
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Just like David Brooks!
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(05-05-2019, 09:30 AM)bbqboy Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 09:12 AM)Juniper Wrote:
bbqboy Wrote:http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/d..._medium=s1

I kept thinking of Wonky, wondering how excited he must be with a new book by his favorite political pundit.
Smiling
The problem with Wonky, was that he could bring a really interesting topic to the table and then pound you over the head with it.
When it’s 1972 in your head, strange things happen. David Brooks and Wonky seem kindred spirits, believing in a genteel and ethical World that doesn’t exist now, if it ever did.

I believe a a genteel and ethical World did exist relative to what we have now. Back when teenagers drove around in pickups with guns in the gun rack .
My uncle who was in WW1 said he could leave his purse on the bed when he took a shower and no one touched it.

I do think I remember Wonky going on and on about brooks. And I remember that he couldn't consider a movie or any video of being worthy compared to a book.
With the cameras and lens they have today I see incredible videos of life like I've never seen before.. Like Hostile Planet and those types of shows.
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Wonky drove me nuts. He had the potential to be a good debater and conversationalist but would shut it down quickly with his own brand of superior knowledge and stance on things.  Like films.  He wasn't capable of looking at a film on its merits.  Like maybe it had a great plot but terrible acting. Or a terrible plot but spectacular cinematography, or groundbreaking technology. Nope.  If it wasn't a good STORY, none of that mattered. Same with books.  We went round about it when I mentioned that in the documentary about Snowden, one of the few things Snowden had with him, was a copy of Corey Doctorow's Homeland.  Wonky hadn't heard of it.  Think what you like about Snowden, he's no idiot and I was impressed that he had a copy.  When I told Wonky that Doctorow's works were marketed as Young Adult literature, that was it. No merit in them.  What?  The books were relevant then and are relevant today and had a lot of good thoughts, concepts and ideas, and philosophical points wrapped up in admittedly simple plotlines and unsophisticated writing styles, but they were still good. They are even taught in universities and colleges.  Nope.  Nothing doing.  Too low brow for Wonky. YOUNG ADULT!??  Absolutely not. Not even worth a glance from his high brow gaze.  It was frustrating and ultimately choosing to be ignorant.  It doesn't matter that yes, the information is available elsewhere in more sophisticated formats by more accredited authorship.  The books held truths and made good points. But no, the conversation was done. No more discussion.   Really frustrating.
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(05-05-2019, 02:00 PM)Juniper Wrote: Wonky drove me nuts. He had the potential to be a good debater and conversationalist but would shut it down quickly with his own brand of superior knowledge and stance on things.  Like films.  He wasn't capable of looking at a film on its merits.  Like maybe it had a great plot but terrible acting. Or a terrible plot but spectacular cinematography, or groundbreaking technology. Nope.  If it wasn't a good STORY, none of that mattered. Same with books.  We went round about it when I mentioned that in the documentary about Snowden, one of the few things Snowden had with him, was a copy of Corey Doctorow's Homeland.  Wonky hadn't heard of it.  Think what you like about Snowden, he's no idiot and I was impressed that he had a copy.  When I told Wonky that Doctorow's works were marketed as Young Adult literature, that was it. No merit in them.  What?  The books were relevant then and are relevant today and had a lot of good thoughts, concepts and ideas, and philosophical points wrapped up in admittedly simple plotlines and unsophisticated writing styles, but they were still good. They are even taught in universities and colleges.  Nope.  Nothing doing.  Too low brow for Wonky. YOUNG ADULT!??  Absolutely not. Not even worth a glance from his high brow gaze.  It was frustrating and ultimately choosing to be ignorant.  It doesn't matter that yes, the information is available elsewhere in more sophisticated formats by more accredited authorship.  The books held truths and made good points. But no, the conversation was done. No more discussion.   Really frustrating.

I was thinking how I missed some of his posts and then I clicked on a thread that CW started about record breaking weather.
And for some reason it landed on an old Wonky post.
And then I remembered how Wonky could not stand Chuck's thread and constantly mocked and trolled the posts Chuck made he considered unworthy.
And then I realized I didn't miss that at all.
And even after
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(05-05-2019, 02:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 02:00 PM)Juniper Wrote: Wonky drove me nuts. He had the potential to be a good debater and conversationalist but would shut it down quickly with his own brand of superior knowledge and stance on things.  Like films.  He wasn't capable of looking at a film on its merits.  Like maybe it had a great plot but terrible acting. Or a terrible plot but spectacular cinematography, or groundbreaking technology. Nope.  If it wasn't a good STORY, none of that mattered. Same with books.  We went round about it when I mentioned that in the documentary about Snowden, one of the few things Snowden had with him, was a copy of Corey Doctorow's Homeland.  Wonky hadn't heard of it.  Think what you like about Snowden, he's no idiot and I was impressed that he had a copy.  When I told Wonky that Doctorow's works were marketed as Young Adult literature, that was it. No merit in them.  What?  The books were relevant then and are relevant today and had a lot of good thoughts, concepts and ideas, and philosophical points wrapped up in admittedly simple plotlines and unsophisticated writing styles, but they were still good. They are even taught in universities and colleges.  Nope.  Nothing doing.  Too low brow for Wonky. YOUNG ADULT!??  Absolutely not. Not even worth a glance from his high brow gaze.  It was frustrating and ultimately choosing to be ignorant.  It doesn't matter that yes, the information is available elsewhere in more sophisticated formats by more accredited authorship.  The books held truths and made good points. But no, the conversation was done. No more discussion.   Really frustrating.

I was thinking how I missed some of his posts and then I clicked on a thread that CW started about record breaking weather.
And for some reason it landed on an old Wonky post.
And then I remembered how Wonky could not stand Chuck's thread and constantly mocked and trolled the posts Chuck made he considered unworthy.
And then I realized I didn't miss that at all.
And even after

Snarky.  A good word to describe that behavior and others.
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