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(02-25-2018, 07:40 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(02-25-2018, 05:08 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(02-25-2018, 03:28 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(02-25-2018, 02:25 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(02-25-2018, 02:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: Yeah in Japan she was well know. But here only because she married John. Otherwise we would have never heard of her.

I'm not sure how famous she was in Japan...infamous perhaps to a slight degree for being non conformist. I don't know how "famous"  her aristocratic heritage really made her to the common sector of Japan.  She was an established performance artist before she met Lennon. I don't know if we would have heard about her too much, but in the artist community she was beginning to become known.  I have a lot of mixed feelings about Yoko. I also don't buy for a second her claim that she had never heard of the Beatles before she met John.  I do believe her peace activism is as sincere as anyone else's .  She turned 85 this week.

Well one thing is for sure. She could sing like a mockingbird.




A Mockingbird that was in a cats mouth Laughing

Yep.


I heard worse. She really was ahead of her time.

Big Grin
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DOJ Alumni Statement Regarding Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, and the Rule of Law

We, the undersigned, are proud alumni of the United States Department of Justice. We served this institution out of a commitment to the founding American principles that our democratic republic depends upon the rule of law, that the law must be applied equally, and that no one is above the law. Many of us served with Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein. Those of us who served with these men know them to be dedicated public servants committed to these principles. All of us served with thousands of their peers at the Department, who also swear an oath to serve, defend, and protect the United States, the Constitution and the American people. We know that there are thousands of public servants at the Department today who serve these principles and all of us.

We are therefore deeply disturbed by the attacks that have been levied against the good men and women of the Department. Not only is it an insult to their public service, but any attempt to corrupt or undermine the even-handed application of the rule of law threatens the foundation of our Republic. We know the people who serve at the Department will bravely weather these attacks and continue to uphold their oaths by doing only what the law dictates. But it is up to the rest of us, and especially our elected representatives, to come to their defense and oppose any attempt by the President or others to improperly interfere in the Department’s work, including by firing either Mr. Mueller, Mr. Rosenstein or other Department leadership or officials for the purpose of interfering in their investigations. Should the President take such a step, we call on Congress to swiftly and forcefully respond to protect the founding principles of our Republic and the rule of law.
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(04-14-2018, 10:51 AM)Valuesize Wrote: DOJ Alumni Statement Regarding Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, and the Rule of Law

We, the undersigned, are proud alumni of the United States Department of Justice. We served this institution out of a commitment to the founding American principles that our democratic republic depends upon the rule of law, that the law must be applied equally, and that no one is above the law. Many of us served with Robert Mueller and Rod Rosenstein. Those of us who served with these men know them to be dedicated public servants committed to these principles. All of us served with thousands of their peers at the Department, who also swear an oath to serve, defend, and protect the United States, the Constitution and the American people. We know that there are thousands of public servants at the Department today who serve these principles and all of us.

We are therefore deeply disturbed by the attacks that have been levied against the good men and women of the Department. Not only is it an insult to their public service, but any attempt to corrupt or undermine the even-handed application of the rule of law threatens the foundation of our Republic. We know the people who serve at the Department will bravely weather these attacks and continue to uphold their oaths by doing only what the law dictates. But it is up to the rest of us, and especially our elected representatives, to come to their defense and oppose any attempt by the President or others to improperly interfere in the Department’s work, including by firing either Mr. Mueller, Mr. Rosenstein or other Department leadership or officials for the purpose of interfering in their investigations. Should the President take such a step, we call on Congress to swiftly and forcefully respond to protect the founding principles of our Republic and the rule of law.
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These are the true patriots I spoke of back in 2016. Link: (Do you think the true patriots in our government, not you pretend ones, responsible for keeping America safe and free will sit by and do nothing? I don't.)

I decided to paste the entire opinion for those of you unable to view NYT. 

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.
It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.
The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.
To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.
Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.
Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.
There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opini...tw-nytimes

The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
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Anyone care to share your opinion on who this person or persons is? I'm going with my initial hunch of Dir Coats, but with the help of at least two others in drafting the statement.
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Weasels. Turns out the Deep State is populated by rethugs.
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Like a fiddle <-----this is a link
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(09-07-2018, 09:37 AM)GPnative Wrote: Like a fiddle

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(09-07-2018, 11:16 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 09:37 AM)GPnative Wrote: Like a fiddle

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Are you asking me out? Twitch
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(09-07-2018, 11:16 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 09:37 AM)GPnative Wrote: Like a fiddle

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From that link:  
Quote:And yet they keep beating on it. Day after day after day after day it’s been Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

This sounds exactly what Trump and Trump supporters do every day only about Hilary and Russia. "Hillary Hillary Hillary!"  She lost and it still goes on and on. It never ends.  Both sides are guilty of keeping the discord and division going.
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(09-07-2018, 12:09 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 11:16 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 09:37 AM)GPnative Wrote: Like a fiddle

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From that link:  
Quote:And yet they keep beating on it. Day after day after day after day it’s been Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

This sounds exactly what Trump and Trump supporters do every day only about Hilary and Russia. "Hillary Hillary Hillary!"  She lost and it still goes on and on. It never ends.  Both sides are guilty of keeping the discord and division going.

agreed
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This might be the disconnect of the century for liberalism. These are actual headlines from today.

GREAT AGAIN: Construction Worker Wages Rise...
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT NEAR RECORD LOW...
120 Utilities Have Lowered Rates Thanks to Tax Cuts...

Michael Moore: This is war...
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(09-07-2018, 11:46 AM)GPnative Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 11:16 AM)Valuesize Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 09:37 AM)GPnative Wrote: Like a fiddle

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Are you asking me out? Twitch

No. It's more of a suggestion to change something if you think we are ALL getting played.
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(09-07-2018, 01:28 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: This might be the disconnect of the century for liberalism.  These are actual headlines from today.

GREAT AGAIN: Construction Worker Wages Rise...
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT NEAR RECORD LOW...
120 Utilities Have Lowered Rates Thanks to Tax Cuts...

Michael Moore: This is war...

I don't see the disconnect.
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(09-07-2018, 03:37 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 01:28 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: This might be the disconnect of the century for liberalism.  These are actual headlines from today.

GREAT AGAIN: Construction Worker Wages Rise...
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT NEAR RECORD LOW...
120 Utilities Have Lowered Rates Thanks to Tax Cuts...

Michael Moore: This is war...

I don't see the disconnect.

Yes you do.  I don't believe you are that stupid. 
Go to war against: higher wages, low unemployment, lower utility bills....

 I almost explained it further, but then I realized, my first sentence is accurate.
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(09-07-2018, 05:48 PM)Someones Dad Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 03:37 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 01:28 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: This might be the disconnect of the century for liberalism.  These are actual headlines from today.

GREAT AGAIN: Construction Worker Wages Rise...
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT NEAR RECORD LOW...
120 Utilities Have Lowered Rates Thanks to Tax Cuts...

Michael Moore: This is war...

I don't see the disconnect.

Yes you do.  I don't believe you are that stupid. 
Go to war against: higher wages, low unemployment, lower utility bills....

 I almost explained it further, but then I realized, my first sentence is accurate.

LOL so you choose things that are positive and even some that may not have anything to do with Trump and the hell with anything else?

Someone do the work for me. Who and how much money are people saving on what utility bills?
And Why? Because we are burning more coal? Less regulations for clean and water?

What wages are higher and how much? Kind of hard to believe that one from a republican admin.
Who supports "right to work" states which have the lowest wages and Republicans are anti union.
Not to mention it's like pulling teeth to get a cost of living increase for min wage.
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(09-07-2018, 05:48 PM)Someones Dad Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 03:37 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(09-07-2018, 01:28 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: This might be the disconnect of the century for liberalism.  These are actual headlines from today.

GREAT AGAIN: Construction Worker Wages Rise...
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT NEAR RECORD LOW...
120 Utilities Have Lowered Rates Thanks to Tax Cuts...

Michael Moore: This is war...

I don't see the disconnect.

Yes you do.  I don't believe you are that stupid. 
Go to war against: higher wages, low unemployment, lower utility bills....

 I almost explained it further, but then I realized, my first sentence is accurate.

Well, thanks for saying I'm not that stupid. Confused  But my problem is with Trump with a whole. On the whole even if Trump makes a few good decisions it doesn't make up for his blind ignorance, his authoritarian, plutocratic reign. His environmental disdain, his short sightedness, his inane radicalization of the office.  Remember when people on here were very upset about Obama bailing out the banks during the crash? The righties said don't do it, the market will correct itself.  Now they give Trump the credit for 'correcting' it.  He is a train wreck and if, IF he  has made a few good business decisions that's not enough.  This is my National leader, my President. He's representing my Country and he's embarrassing the hell out of me but apparently, SD, you are all good with it.
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And that’s why it is war. SD loves him some benevolent whiteboy dictatoring. Unemployment has zero to do with the moral crisis of having a crime boss looting the country and destroying our fabric of society in hopes of making it 1953 again.
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