Who Is It?
#21
(11-18-2017, 09:48 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(11-18-2017, 09:36 AM)Cuzz Wrote: They already look dead. They look like they have that awful morticians makeup on.
So...we can pretty well determine the photo was not taken with a single reflex 35 MM camera or an iPhone 8?  Big Grin

No it was the point and shoot of 1880.  Wink

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#22
Camera's are cool. The oldest I remember having around our house growing up was a Kewpie Box Camera from the teens or twenties. 

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#23
(11-18-2017, 10:52 AM)Valuesize Wrote: Camera's are cool. The oldest I remember having around our house growing up was a Kewpie Box Camera from the teens or twenties. 

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Some of the early Kodak's required they be sent in to process the film. Don't know about this one. 

A small box with a pin hole works in a pinch.
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#24
(11-18-2017, 09:08 AM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(11-18-2017, 02:37 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-18-2017, 12:59 AM)Valuesize Wrote: [Image: 16xp-billythekid1-master768_1.jpg]

John Wesley Harding?

We need to hang out at flea markets more often!
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From NYT. 

At a flea market six years ago, a North Carolina lawyer named Frank Abrams unknowingly bought a rare photograph that experts say shows Billy the Kid relaxing with the man who would eventually kill him.
Billy the Kid, one of the best-known outlaws in American history, is thought to be there in the back, second from the left. The man all the way to the right is Pat Garrett, who would soon become the sheriff of Lincoln County, N.M., and — the story goes — shoot the outlaw dead in a darkened room.
The men appear on a tintype that is about the size of a man’s palm. (Tintypes are photographic images produced on thin sheets of metal. They became popular during the late 19th century and, as in this case, often show a version of reality that is reversed, left-to-right.)
In 2011, Mr. Abrams saw nothing more than a group of five men who looked like cowboys. He considered it a strange find, since most tintypes that ended up in North Carolina harkened back to the American South, not the Wild West. So he bought it for $10, he said in a phone interview, and put it up in his home. It hung in a room where he hosted Airbnb guests. Mr. Abrams used to jokingly tell them that it was a picture of Jesse James.
A similar find — a tintype that experts said showed Billy the Kid playing croquet with friends — was valued at around $5 million in 2015. The discovery motivated Mr. Abrams to take a closer look at his own picture.


He turned to Google and eventually zeroed in on the man on the right with the severe features and the dark hat. “Oh my gosh,” he recalled saying. “That is Pat Garrett in my picture.”
Then, Mr. Abrams began to wonder about the man in the back with the prominent Adam’s apple. He eventually showed the tintype to Robert Stahl, a retired professor at Arizona State University and an expert on Billy the Kid.
Mr. Stahl encouraged Mr. Abrams to show the image to experts.
William Dunniway, a tintype expert, said the photograph was almost certainly taken between 1875 and 1880. “Everything matches: the plate, the clothing, the firearm,” he said in a phone interview. Mr. Dunniway worked with a forensics expert, Kent Gibson, to conclude that Billy the Kid and Mr. Garrett were indeed pictured.
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The best-known tintype image of Billy the Kid shows him standing upright and holding a rifle. CreditBen Wittick 
Mr. Stahl said that Mr. Garrett and Billy the Kid, who also went by William H. Bonney and Henry McCarty, were friends who once gambled together. But when Mr. Garrett was about to become the sheriff of Lincoln County, he urged the outlaw to hit the road.
“Garrett was saying, ‘If you leave New Mexico, I’m not going to pursue you. But if you stay in the territory, then no matter where you are, I have to come after you,’” Mr. Stahl said. That would have been around the time the photo was taken.
Once he became sheriff, Mr. Garrett’s men did indeed capture Billy the Kid. But the outlaw escaped, killing two deputies on the way out of jail. So Mr. Garrett tracked him down again. The story goes that in 1881, Mr. Garrett was in Fort Sumner visiting a friend of the outlaw’s when the Kid arrived unexpectedly; the men couldn’t really see each other, but Mr. Garrett recognized Billy’s voice and quickly shot him dead.

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Reporting on his death in 1881, The New York Times described Billy the Kid as slim, good-looking and mild-mannered.
“His soft blue eye was so attractive that those who saw him for the first time looked upon him as a victim of circumstances,” it reported. “In spite of his innocent appearance, however, Billy the Kid was really one of the most dangerous characters which this country has produced.”
Billy the Kid became famous for his participation in the Lincoln County War in 1878, a bloody feud between rival factions in New Mexico Territory. But the story of his short life — he was said to be around 21 when he died — has always been a subject of fervent debate and a few conspiracy theories. People have disagreed about his motivations, about the total number of men killed by him and his crew, and even about whether he really died that night in Fort Sumner.
One of the people who tried to set the record straight was Mr. Garrett himself, who worked with the journalist Marshall Ashmun Upson to write a book: “The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid.”
Mr. Abrams said he bought the tintype from people who told him it came from Clinton, N.Y. He believes that it had been a possession of Mr. Upson and had found its way to his relatives in the Northeast.
And then it made its way to Mr. Abrams, who is, of all things, a criminal defense lawyer. “It was like taking on the biggest case you could ever imagine,” he said of investigating his artifact, which is now in a safe deposit box.
He has not had the tintype formally valuated, and he said that for now, he is not concerned about its monetary value. "Other people, they want to speculate from here to kingdom come,” he said. “I don’t know what it’s worth. I love history. It’s a privilege to have something like this.”[/size]

I've seen the photo before and my first thought was Billy the kid. But I remember seeing the other photo you show of him and no one in the group photo resembles him. to me.
 Isn't it said somewhere to always go with your first thought?

I also just recently watched a TV show about a photo at a wedding and the entire show was people trying to prove Billy was in the photo.
It turned out he was or that most people believe it was him based on the time, the area and the people he was with.

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#25
Every new day is a chance to be great, at whatever it is you are doing. A chance to grow, to fall and get back up, to love and be loved. I for one am giving it everything I’ve got everyday. What are you passionate about?

Who am I?

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#26
(04-10-2018, 01:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Every new day is a chance to be great, at whatever it is you are doing. A chance to grow, to fall and get back up, to love and be loved. I for one am giving it everything I’ve got everyday. What are you passionate about?

Who am I?

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It's Tommy Hilfiger of course!  Mommy put his name on his underwear!
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#27
(04-10-2018, 01:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Every new day is a chance to be great, at whatever it is you are doing. A chance to grow, to fall and get back up, to love and be loved. I for one am giving it everything I’ve got everyday. What are you passionate about?

Who am I?

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The tires are a hint Wink
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#28
(04-11-2018, 02:02 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 01:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Every new day is a chance to be great, at whatever it is you are doing. A chance to grow, to fall and get back up, to love and be loved. I for one am giving it everything I’ve got everyday. What are you passionate about?

Who am I?

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The tires are a hint Wink

That's funny, I didn't notice the tires.  Laughing What kind are they? They look like big truck tires.
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#29
(04-11-2018, 02:02 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 01:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Every new day is a chance to be great, at whatever it is you are doing. A chance to grow, to fall and get back up, to love and be loved. I for one am giving it everything I’ve got everyday. What are you passionate about?

Who am I?

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The tires are a hint Wink

The junk yard guy?
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#30
He's one of the top ten highest paid sports stars in the world.  Razz
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#31
(04-11-2018, 02:06 PM)Valuesize Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 02:02 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 01:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Every new day is a chance to be great, at whatever it is you are doing. A chance to grow, to fall and get back up, to love and be loved. I for one am giving it everything I’ve got everyday. What are you passionate about?

Who am I?

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The tires are a hint Wink

That's funny, I didn't notice the tires.  Laughing What kind are they? They look like big truck tires.
I have no idea what the fit but "tires" are a good hint as to who the dude is.
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#32
(04-11-2018, 02:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: He's one of the top ten highest paid sports stars in the world.  Razz

That would explain why I'm clueless.   Embarrassed
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#33
(04-11-2018, 04:33 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 02:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: He's one of the top ten highest paid sports stars in the world.  Razz

That would explain why I'm clueless.   Embarrassed

Come on "sports" and  a hint is TIRES and you don't have a clue? I don't mean his actual name.
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#34
(04-11-2018, 04:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:33 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 02:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: He's one of the top ten highest paid sports stars in the world.  Razz

That would explain why I'm clueless.   Embarrassed

Come on "sports" and  a hint is TIRES and you don't have a clue? I don't mean his actual name.
Well, we've had this conversation before.  Sports mean nothing to me.
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#35
(04-11-2018, 05:01 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:33 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 02:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: He's one of the top ten highest paid sports stars in the world.  Razz

That would explain why I'm clueless.   Embarrassed

Come on "sports" and  a hint is TIRES and you don't have a clue? I don't mean his actual name.
Well, we've had this conversation before.  Sports mean nothing to me.

It doesn't matter if sports means nothing to you.. You can't think of a sport that involves tires?
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#36
(04-11-2018, 05:26 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:01 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:33 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 02:26 PM)Valuesize Wrote: He's one of the top ten highest paid sports stars in the world.  Razz

That would explain why I'm clueless.   Embarrassed

Come on "sports" and  a hint is TIRES and you don't have a clue? I don't mean his actual name.
Well, we've had this conversation before.  Sports mean nothing to me.

It doesn't matter if sports means nothing to you.. You can't think of a sport that involves tires?
 Well, I assumed race car driver...still nothing though.
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#37
(04-11-2018, 05:35 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:26 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:01 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:33 PM)Juniper Wrote: That would explain why I'm clueless.   Embarrassed

Come on "sports" and  a hint is TIRES and you don't have a clue? I don't mean his actual name.
Well, we've had this conversation before.  Sports mean nothing to me.

It doesn't matter if sports means nothing to you.. You can't think of a sport that involves tires?
 Well, I assumed race car driver...still nothing though.

I'm with you, I don't have a clue and that doesn't really bother me at all.
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#38
(04-11-2018, 05:39 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:35 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:26 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:01 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 04:52 PM)tvguy Wrote: Come on "sports" and  a hint is TIRES and you don't have a clue? I don't mean his actual name.
Well, we've had this conversation before.  Sports mean nothing to me.

It doesn't matter if sports means nothing to you.. You can't think of a sport that involves tires?
 Well, I assumed race car driver...still nothing though.

I'm with you, I don't have a clue and that doesn't really bother me at all.
 Right?

See, I thought this was "who" not "what".  So, I can't come up with "who" based on the "what" because the "what" is sport related.  Get it, TV?  Big Grin Laughing :lol
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#39
(04-11-2018, 05:44 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:39 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:35 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:26 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:01 PM)Juniper Wrote: Well, we've had this conversation before.  Sports mean nothing to me.

It doesn't matter if sports means nothing to you.. You can't think of a sport that involves tires?
 Well, I assumed race car driver...still nothing though.

I'm with you, I don't have a clue and that doesn't really bother me at all.
 Right?

See, I thought this was "who" not "what".  So, I can't come up with "who" based on the "what" because the "what" is sport related.  Get it, TV?  Big Grin Laughing :lol

But I did say  "I don't mean his actual name."   Wink
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#40
(04-11-2018, 06:40 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:44 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:39 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:35 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 05:26 PM)tvguy Wrote: It doesn't matter if sports means nothing to you.. You can't think of a sport that involves tires?
 Well, I assumed race car driver...still nothing though.

I'm with you, I don't have a clue and that doesn't really bother me at all.
 Right?

See, I thought this was "who" not "what".  So, I can't come up with "who" based on the "what" because the "what" is sport related.  Get it, TV?  Big Grin Laughing :lol

But I did say  "I don't mean his actual name."   Wink
Well, who knows what you  mean?   Razz
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