Climate Change Summed Up
#41
(03-06-2017, 06:30 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 03:34 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-05-2017, 08:51 PM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Guy Stewart Callendar (February 1897 - October 1964) was an English steam engineer and inventor. His main contribution to knowledge was developing the theory that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to global temperature. This theory, earlier proposed by Svante Arrhenius,[1] has been called the Callendar effect. Callendar thought this warming would be beneficial, delaying a "return of the deadly glaciers."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Stewart_Callendar


[Image: 250px-GSCallendar1934.jpg]

Yep, I remember old Guy. He also said he invented the internet. They said he made all that shit up just to get a lucrative government grant.
He was a pioneer in the art of fraud. Wrote a book and called it that too.

He died long before anybody heard of global warming.

Ain't that a bitch!
Kind of like dying before Elvis came along.
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#42
(03-06-2017, 06:30 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 03:34 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-05-2017, 08:51 PM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Guy Stewart Callendar (February 1897 - October 1964) was an English steam engineer and inventor. His main contribution to knowledge was developing the theory that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to global temperature. This theory, earlier proposed by Svante Arrhenius,[1] has been called the Callendar effect. Callendar thought this warming would be beneficial, delaying a "return of the deadly glaciers."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Stewart_Callendar


[Image: 250px-GSCallendar1934.jpg]

Yep, I remember old Guy. He also said he invented the internet. They said he made all that shit up just to get a lucrative government grant.
He was a pioneer in the art of fraud. Wrote a book and called it that too.

He died long before anybody heard of global warming.

How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."
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#43
(03-06-2017, 08:07 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 06:30 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 03:34 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-05-2017, 08:51 PM)chuck white Wrote:
Quote:Guy Stewart Callendar (February 1897 - October 1964) was an English steam engineer and inventor. His main contribution to knowledge was developing the theory that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to global temperature. This theory, earlier proposed by Svante Arrhenius,[1] has been called the Callendar effect. Callendar thought this warming would be beneficial, delaying a "return of the deadly glaciers."[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Stewart_Callendar


[Image: 250px-GSCallendar1934.jpg]

Yep, I remember old Guy. He also said he invented the internet. They said he made all that shit up just to get a lucrative government grant.
He was a pioneer in the art of fraud. Wrote a book and called it that too.

He died long before anybody heard of global warming.

How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."

Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.
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#44
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:07 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 06:30 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 03:34 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-05-2017, 08:51 PM)chuck white Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Stewart_Callendar


[Image: 250px-GSCallendar1934.jpg]

Yep, I remember old Guy. He also said he invented the internet. They said he made all that shit up just to get a lucrative government grant.
He was a pioneer in the art of fraud. Wrote a book and called it that too.

He died long before anybody heard of global warming.

How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."

Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]
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#45
(03-06-2017, 10:06 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:07 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 06:30 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 03:34 PM)tvguy Wrote: Yep, I remember old Guy. He also said he invented the internet. They said he made all that shit up just to get a lucrative government grant.
He was a pioneer in the art of fraud. Wrote a book and called it that too.

He died long before anybody heard of global warming.

How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."

Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]

Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.
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#46
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:06 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:07 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 06:30 PM)chuck white Wrote: He died long before anybody heard of global warming.

How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."

Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]

Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.
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#47
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:06 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:07 PM)tvguy Wrote: How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."

Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]

Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

But  he didn't stand up for him. Just let him take the fall.
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#48
(03-06-2017, 11:05 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:06 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote: Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]

Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

But  he didn't stand up for him. Just let him take the fall.

Wonky was a solar system denier back then.
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#49
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:06 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:07 PM)tvguy Wrote: How does that make any sense?
 

How did he make a " main contribution to knowledge" if "He died long before anybody heard of global warming."

Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]

Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

I bet when Copernicus was buying the wine they did.
And don't be silly of course Wonky remembers. Why just the other day he was telling me about when Australia split off from Africa.
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#50
(03-07-2017, 12:25 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:06 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 08:51 PM)Wonky3 Wrote: Damn TVg...you gotta READ the thing. He was right before he was wrong.

Quote:In 1938, Callendar compiled measurements of temperatures from the 19th century on, and correlated these measurements with old measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentrations.[1] He concluded that over the previous fifty years the global land temperatures had increased, and proposed that this increase could be explained as an effect of the increase in carbon dioxide.[5] These estimates have now been shown to be remarkably accurate,[4] especially as they were performed without the aid of a computer.[6]

Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

I bet when Copernicus was buying the wine they did.
And don't be silly of course Wonky remembers. Why just the other day he was telling me about when Australia split off from Africa.

Continental segregation.
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#51
(03-07-2017, 12:27 AM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-07-2017, 12:25 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote: Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

I bet when Copernicus was buying the wine they did.
And don't be silly of course Wonky remembers. Why just the other day he was telling me about when Australia split off from Africa.

Continental segregation.

Ya know what, Chuckie? Being young takes no talent. 
Getting old requires a lot of luck, but it takes some care and attention along the way too. 

Whatever: Callendar's contribution in working with CO2 was significant and that he "got it wrong" makes little difference. The beauty of science is the accumulative knowledge that continues the path toward real facts. That the gods for peer reviews.
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#52
(03-07-2017, 03:54 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-07-2017, 12:27 AM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-07-2017, 12:25 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:23 PM)tvguy Wrote: Sheeesh, You said no one listened to him but the article said he he made a " main contribution to knowledge"

It can't be both! It was a JOKE!!!!

It's like  saying no one eats at that restaurant any more because it's always too crowded.

Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

I bet when Copernicus was buying the wine they did.
And don't be silly of course Wonky remembers. Why just the other day he was telling me about when Australia split off from Africa.

Continental segregation.

Ya know what, Chuckie? Being young takes no talent. 
Getting old requires a lot of luck, but it takes some care and attention along the way too. 

Whatever: Callendar's contribution in working with CO2 was significant and that he "got it wrong" makes little difference. The beauty of science is the accumulative knowledge that continues the path toward real facts. That the gods for peer reviews.

What do you mean Callendar got it wrong? Have you seen any deadly glaciers lately?
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#53
(03-07-2017, 04:33 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-07-2017, 03:54 PM)Wonky3 Wrote:
(03-07-2017, 12:27 AM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-07-2017, 12:25 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-06-2017, 10:32 PM)chuck white Wrote: Hey, they give Copernicus credit today for the 'Earth goes around the Sun' theory, but no one listen to him back in the 1500's.

Wonky, might remember that.

I bet when Copernicus was buying the wine they did.
And don't be silly of course Wonky remembers. Why just the other day he was telling me about when Australia split off from Africa.

Continental segregation.

Ya know what, Chuckie? Being young takes no talent. 
Getting old requires a lot of luck, but it takes some care and attention along the way too. 

Whatever: Callendar's contribution in working with CO2 was significant and that he "got it wrong" makes little difference. The beauty of science is the accumulative knowledge that continues the path toward real facts. That the gods for peer reviews.

What do you mean Callendar got it wrong? Have you seen any deadly glaciers lately?
Exactly! The TOTAL effect of ALL the factors causing the climate to warm goes far beyond the danger of deadly glaciers.
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#54
Quote:Like a rite of spring, carbon dioxide is poised to cruise pass the previous mark set last year and reach heights unseen in human history. In the coming weeks, carbon dioxide will start to breach the 410 parts per million threshold on a daily basis at the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii.

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/carbo...-ppm-21223

[Image: 3_6_17_Brian_WeeklyCO2Feb2017_720_492_s_c1_c_c.jpg]
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#55
Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, said on Thursday that carbon dioxide was not a primary contributor to global warming, a statement at odds with the global scientific consensus on climate change.

Speaking of carbon dioxide, the heat-trapping gas produced by burning fossil fuels, Mr. Pruitt told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that “I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see.”

https://www.nytimes.com
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#56
(03-09-2017, 09:39 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, said on Thursday that carbon dioxide was not a primary contributor to global warming, a statement at odds with the global scientific consensus on climate change.

Speaking of carbon dioxide, the heat-trapping gas produced by burning fossil fuels, Mr. Pruitt told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that “I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see.”

https://www.nytimes.com

Well that's what you have when you have an ignorant birther, climate change denier choosing who heads the EPA.
A total MORON.
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#57
(03-09-2017, 01:16 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 09:39 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, said on Thursday that carbon dioxide was not a primary contributor to global warming, a statement at odds with the global scientific consensus on climate change.

Speaking of carbon dioxide, the heat-trapping gas produced by burning fossil fuels, Mr. Pruitt told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that “I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see.”

https://www.nytimes.com

Well that's what you have when you have an ignorant birther, climate change denier choosing who heads the EPA.
A total MORON.
"there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact,"  between those with an education in science and those with an education in PE.

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#58
(03-09-2017, 01:53 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 01:16 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 09:39 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, said on Thursday that carbon dioxide was not a primary contributor to global warming, a statement at odds with the global scientific consensus on climate change.

Speaking of carbon dioxide, the heat-trapping gas produced by burning fossil fuels, Mr. Pruitt told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that “I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see.”

https://www.nytimes.com

Well that's what you have when you have an ignorant birther, climate change denier choosing who heads the EPA.
A total MORON.
"there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact,"  between those with an education in science and those with an education in PE.


Big Grin
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#59
(03-09-2017, 02:22 PM)Valuesize Wrote: Laughing
(03-09-2017, 01:53 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 01:16 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 09:39 AM)Wonky3 Wrote: Scott Pruitt, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency, said on Thursday that carbon dioxide was not a primary contributor to global warming, a statement at odds with the global scientific consensus on climate change.

Speaking of carbon dioxide, the heat-trapping gas produced by burning fossil fuels, Mr. Pruitt told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that “I think that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do and there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact, so no, I would not agree that it’s a primary contributor to the global warming that we see.”

https://www.nytimes.com

Well that's what you have when you have an ignorant birther, climate change denier choosing who heads the EPA.
A total MORON.
"there’s tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact,"  between those with an education in science and those with an education in PE.


Big Grin

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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#60
Quote:Mass coral bleaching is occurring on the Great Barrier Reef for the second consecutive year, Australia's lead management agency for the Reef confirmed today.

The bleaching is part of a global event affecting the world’s coral reefs over the past two years.
http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/media-room/late...rrier-reef
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