"Obama Care"...Alive and kicking
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(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:43 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 12:08 PM)SFLiberal Wrote: It would fit him like a glove.  Anyone who thinks Obamacare has been a success is wearing one of those blinders.  All I have to do is look at my insurance statement before Obamacare and after was forced on us by the dems to know how well it is working.  My premiums have skyrocketed as have my deductable.  We have had to chance carriers and doctors three times since this monstrosity was forced upon us.  Apparently Wonky doesn't know that of the 23 state healthcare insurance exchanges that were created only 7 remain.  The rest went broke.  As the saying goes, "The problem with socialism is that sinner or later you run of other peoples money."  The closing of all those exchanges proves that point.  And his news source The New York Times that he calls "good and reliable sources with historical records"?  Wonky must live in an alternate universe if he thinks of the NYT that way.  It's a liberal propaganda outlet that is on it's way to bankruptcy.  They are in the process of vacating 8 floors of the building they occupy and those employees are looking at pink slips.  Good, and good riddance.  Hopefully a new unbiased and honest publication will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes when they finally go toes up.  Can't happen soon enough. 

I went to a Christmas gathering last week, all walks of life from retired seniors to young families with kids and the topic of the ACA came up. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE in the group was happy with this travesty. This was a group of 30+ people and every single one of them has their story of just how badly they are being screwed or finally just said to hell with it and have no insurance at all. The working middle class families are the hardest hit.
It's a good deal if you qualify for your free shit, the millions of us that fall outside that category are being raked over the coals.

 My money says a couple people started ranting about hating Obama care and others joined in. At that point do you really think anyone who was happy with it would speak up?

I'm not agreeing with Obama care being fair. I'm finding it VERY hard to believe that at a Christmas gathering EVERY SINGLE PERSON told their story.

Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.
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#22
(12-23-2016, 07:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:43 PM)GPnative Wrote: I went to a Christmas gathering last week, all walks of life from retired seniors to young families with kids and the topic of the ACA came up. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE in the group was happy with this travesty. This was a group of 30+ people and every single one of them has their story of just how badly they are being screwed or finally just said to hell with it and have no insurance at all. The working middle class families are the hardest hit.
It's a good deal if you qualify for your free shit, the millions of us that fall outside that category are being raked over the coals.

 My money says a couple people started ranting about hating Obama care and others joined in. At that point do you really think anyone who was happy with it would speak up?

I'm not agreeing with Obama care being fair. I'm finding it VERY hard to believe that at a Christmas gathering EVERY SINGLE PERSON told their story.

Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.

Hugo and GPnative will correct soon.
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#23
(12-23-2016, 07:05 PM)Jeep Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:  My money says a couple people started ranting about hating Obama care and others joined in. At that point do you really think anyone who was happy with it would speak up?

I'm not agreeing with Obama care being fair. I'm finding it VERY hard to believe that at a Christmas gathering EVERY SINGLE PERSON told their story.

Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.

Hugo and GPnative will correct soon.

No doubt.   Big Grin
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#24
Big Grin
(12-23-2016, 07:29 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:05 PM)Jeep Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote: Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.

Hugo and GPnative will correct soon.

No doubt.   Big Grin

Big Grin
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#25
(12-23-2016, 07:05 PM)Jeep Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:  My money says a couple people started ranting about hating Obama care and others joined in. At that point do you really think anyone who was happy with it would speak up?

I'm not agreeing with Obama care being fair. I'm finding it VERY hard to believe that at a Christmas gathering EVERY SINGLE PERSON told their story.

Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.

Hugo and GPnative will correct soon.

I am wondering WTF I have to do with this topic or thread?  I'm sure Cuzz and Jeep will let me know, and correct soon.
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#26
(12-23-2016, 09:07 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:05 PM)Jeep Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote: Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.

Hugo and GPnative will correct soon.

I am wondering WTF I have to do with this topic or thread?  I'm sure Cuzz and Jeep will let me know, and correct soon.

OK, my mistake, it's been a long day.
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#27
(12-23-2016, 09:31 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 09:07 PM)Hugo Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:05 PM)Jeep Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 07:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote: OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.

Means nothing. I don't think it would be hard to find an equal number that would tell exactly the opposite story. I'm sure it was meaningful and made an impression to Hugo but it's importance ends with that.

Hugo and GPnative will correct soon.

I am wondering WTF I have to do with this topic or thread?  I'm sure Cuzz and Jeep will let me know, and correct soon.

OK, my mistake, it's been a long day.

Yes, certainly longer then yesterday. We passed the solstice on the 21 st.
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#28
(12-23-2016, 04:25 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:35 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 03:30 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:52 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-23-2016, 02:43 PM)GPnative Wrote: I went to a Christmas gathering last week, all walks of life from retired seniors to young families with kids and the topic of the ACA came up. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE in the group was happy with this travesty. This was a group of 30+ people and every single one of them has their story of just how badly they are being screwed or finally just said to hell with it and have no insurance at all. The working middle class families are the hardest hit.
It's a good deal if you qualify for your free shit, the millions of us that fall outside that category are being raked over the coals.

 My money says a couple people started ranting about hating Obama care and others joined in. At that point do you really think anyone who was happy with it would speak up?

I'm not agreeing with Obama care being fair. I'm finding it VERY hard to believe that at a Christmas gathering EVERY SINGLE PERSON told their story.

Well, you would be wrong. We were all seated at a set of long ass banquet tables and every adult at the table told their story. I purposely took note and watched the conversation unfold, everyone spoke up at one point or another, myself included.  (30 + people, included spouses so, 15 stories, not so hard to believe)

OK then you go to boring ass Christmas parties LOL. Anyway 15 couples is the real number and that's easier to believe.


And... they're all most likely GPn's ilk.  So... not surprising at all.  Rolling Eyes

Its also not surprising you jump into a topic and offer nothing.
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