Thoughts on this?

[GCG]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

[Scrapper]

I'm going to say that was a tad harsh. 

[GCG]

I'm going to say that was a tad harsh. 

I have to agree. He could have settled the matter without knocking the crap out of her.

[chuck white]

She probably burned the toast.

[tvguy]

I'm going to say that was a tad harsh. 

I have to agree. He could have settled the matter without knocking the crap out of her.

I agree BUT. I'm not sure from the video how hard he actually hit her. Or if it was a fist slap or what.
I mean these videos on the internet are not always real time.

And it's no excuse but I wonder if she did something to that cop prior to the video that made him angry.

As a "cop lover"   and the way I see SO many young punks treat cops. Some times I wish the cops would knock the shit out of some of them.
A cop is not supposed to react the way he did. In anger and instantly hit back. But I understand it because that's exactly what I do.

[Valuesize]

They never should have taken her out in that manner to start with. If she was combative, secure her hands and escort her out in a vertical position even if it means her toes are dragging behind.

[tvguy]

They never should have taken her out in that manner to start with. If she was combative, secure her hands and escort her out in a vertical position even if it means her toes are dragging behind.

 What you describe would allow her to kick people. The cops carry people who are out of control like that all the time.
Usually just to the car where they tie there hands and feet. Even then I've seen people in the car kicking the window with both tied feat.
At that point they actually hog tie them.

But you are correct they should have handcuffed her. But I think they just wanted her out of the crowd as quickly as possible.

[Scrapper]

They never should have taken her out in that manner to start with. If she was combative, secure her hands and escort her out in a vertical position even if it means her toes are dragging behind.

I agree 100%!

[tvguy]

They never should have taken her out in that manner to start with. If she was combative, secure her hands and escort her out in a vertical position even if it means her toes are dragging behind.

I agree 100%!

I don't get why you guys think that was an issue. I've watched cops wrestle people to try and put cuffs on and sometimes it's extremely hard. And in this case there was hardly any room.
If you look closely you can see there is a railing.There are two cops on each side of it. If it wasn't for the railing I doubt they would have picked her up.

[Valuesize]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

[GCG]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

from: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...80856.html

...As for what happened before the video, according to the arrest report, Ross went to Section 129 after a disturbance was reported there. The disturbance Ross found was Freitas arguing with other fans while “using profanity in a loud and boisterous manner.”

After officers couldn’t get Freitas to exit the section calmly, the report says, she planted herself on the stairs. Two officers tried to get her up and out. Two other officers, of which Ross was one, joined to help.

That’s when the video starts.

[tvguy]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face.

I totally agree. I Just don't see what was wrong with carrying her away like a piece of furniture LOL

[Valuesize]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face.

I totally agree. I Just don't see what was wrong with carrying her away like a piece of furniture LOL

I her current condition it was probably what led to her swinging aimlessly. Two people with FIRM grips on either side escorting her out would have worked better. IMO. 

[tvguy]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face.

I totally agree. I Just don't see what was wrong with carrying her away like a piece of furniture LOL

I her current condition it was probably what led to her swinging aimlessly. Two people with FIRM grips on either side escorting her out would have worked better. IMO. 

Actually there were two people on each side. But no they didn't have a firm grip or she would not have been able to swing her arm.
I wonder if she was charged with assault on a police officer? Because it looks to me like she was already punished for that LOL.

[GCG]

A drunk girl takes a couple of swipes at a cop as she is being carried out of the stands. The cop retaliates.

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face.

I totally agree. I Just don't see what was wrong with carrying her away like a piece of furniture LOL

I her current condition it was probably what led to her swinging aimlessly. Two people with FIRM grips on either side escorting her out would have worked better. IMO. 

Actually there were two people on each side. But no they didn't have a firm grip or she would not have been able to swing her arm.
I wonder if she was charged with assault on a police officer? Because it looks to me like she was already punished for that LOL.

I read somewhere that she was charged for that.

[tvguy]

"Thoughts on this?"

I think you just want to see how many people TV will argue with.   

The clip is too short. We don't have the ability to see what has happened in the few minutes prior so there is not much to intelligently comment on besides she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face. Especially if you take into account the crowd reaction who most likely DID see the events prior to what we see in the clip.

she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face.

I totally agree. I Just don't see what was wrong with carrying her away like a piece of furniture LOL

I her current condition it was probably what led to her swinging aimlessly. Two people with FIRM grips on either side escorting her out would have worked better. IMO. 

Actually there were two people on each side. But no they didn't have a firm grip or she would not have been able to swing her arm.
I wonder if she was charged with assault on a police officer? Because it looks to me like she was already punished for that LOL.

I read somewhere that she was charged for that.

Well people who assault an officer normally are. But I think it's up to the cops his discretion.I say this because I've seen cops on TV shows not charge someone with assault because of the situation.

[GCG]

she "probably" didn't deserve to be punched in the face.

I totally agree. I Just don't see what was wrong with carrying her away like a piece of furniture LOL

I her current condition it was probably what led to her swinging aimlessly. Two people with FIRM grips on either side escorting her out would have worked better. IMO. 

Actually there were two people on each side. But no they didn't have a firm grip or she would not have been able to swing her arm.
I wonder if she was charged with assault on a police officer? Because it looks to me like she was already punished for that LOL.

I read somewhere that she was charged for that.

Well people who assault an officer normally are. But I think it's up to the cops his discretion.I say this because I've seen cops on TV shows not charge someone with assault because of the situation.

I'm thinking that they almost had to charge her or else why would he have had any reason to whack the hell out of her?

[Valuesize]

I read somewhere that she was charged for that.

It was in the link you provide up thread. 

Miami-Dade police issued a statement about the incident on Sunday afternoon: “Promoting a safe and secure environment during any special event is our primary concern. After responding to a disturbance, the person in the video was being removed from the event by our officers for being disorderly. She was subsequently arrested for Battery on a Law Enforcement Officer and Disorderly Conduct/Breach of the peace.

“Supervisory personnel are aware of the video and are reviewing the incident to ensure compliance with our policies and procedures.”

[tvguy]

I her current condition it was probably what led to her swinging aimlessly. Two people with FIRM grips on either side escorting her out would have worked better. IMO. 

Actually there were two people on each side. But no they didn't have a firm grip or she would not have been able to swing her arm.
I wonder if she was charged with assault on a police officer? Because it looks to me like she was already punished for that LOL.

I read somewhere that she was charged for that.

Well people who assault an officer normally are. But I think it's up to the cops his discretion.I say this because I've seen cops on TV shows not charge someone with assault because of the situation.

I'm thinking that they almost had to charge her or else why would he have had any reason to whack the hell out of her?

So you are thinking if she was not charged then the cop would have no defense for hitting her?  I don't buy that because both her hitting him and him hitting her are on video for all to see. But you may have a point.

[tvguy]

I read somewhere that she was charged for that.

It was in the link you provide up thread. 

Miami-Dade police issued a statement about the incident on Sunday afternoon: “Promoting a safe and secure environment during any special event is our primary concern. After responding to a disturbance, the person in the video was being removed from the event by our officers for being disorderly. She was subsequently arrested for Battery on a Law Enforcement Officer and Disorderly Conduct/Breach of the peace.

“Supervisory personnel are aware of the video and are reviewing the incident to ensure compliance with our policies and procedures.”

A lot of times a cop will give a break to people as far as what they are charged with.
Depending on the suspects level of cooperation.Something tells me this person was not cooperative at all.
I see a lawsuit in the works.