I have a telemarker on hold right now
#1
These people call me every other day. It's a message and they ask if I want to speak to an agent or press two to take me off their calling list.
But I've pressed TWO and it does nothing.So I ask to speak to an agent and then I act interested and talk slow and just wasted THEIR time.
Normally when I tell them that's what I'm doing they get very upset and sometime extremely vulgar. Today this guy just said he didn't mind.
So I said fine I won't hang up if you won't. I put the phone down and started typing this.I kept checking and he was still there.
Finally he said thank you for helping him make 100 dollars and I laughed and said he must get paid by the hour.

OK he finally hung up Razz Razz Razz

I'm almost positive I get theses calls because of my Craigslist posts. I spell my tel number and even use incorrect spelling so they must hire someone to peruse the ads and and give them the phone numbers.

This crap should be illegal.. Not to mention the calls I keep getting from the police telling me I better contact them or I'm going to jail.. The wife too. They even leave a voice mail LOL.
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(06-29-2018, 03:32 PM)tvguy Wrote: These people call me every other day. It's a message and they ask if I want to speak to an agent or press two to take me off their calling list.
But I've pressed TWO and it does nothing.So I ask to speak to an agent and then I act interested and talk slow and just wasted THEIR time.
Normally when I tell them that's what I'm doing they get very upset and sometime extremely vulgar. Today this guy just said he didn't mind.
So I said fine I won't hang up if you won't. I put the phone down and started typing this.I kept checking and he was still there.
Finally he said thank you for helping him make 100 dollars and I laughed and said he must get paid by the hour.

OK he finally hung up Razz Razz Razz

I'm almost positive I get theses calls because of my Craigslist posts. I spell my tel number and even use incorrect spelling so they must hire someone to peruse the ads and and give them the phone numbers.

This crap should be illegal.. Not to mention the calls I keep getting from the police telling me I better contact them or I'm going to jail.. The wife too. They even leave a voice mail LOL.

By pressing two you just confirmed that your number was a valid number so you go to the head of the list. So to speak. Often they just auto call a block of numbers in sequential order. I worked one place in the evenings where their calls would hit each phone in order. I could get ahead of them and pick up the call and then transfer them to somewhere else.
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#3
Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.
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(06-29-2018, 03:47 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 03:32 PM)tvguy Wrote: These people call me every other day. It's a message and they ask if I want to speak to an agent or press two to take me off their calling list.
But I've pressed TWO and it does nothing.So I ask to speak to an agent and then I act interested and talk slow and just wasted THEIR time.
Normally when I tell them that's what I'm doing they get very upset and sometime extremely vulgar. Today this guy just said he didn't mind.
So I said fine I won't hang up if you won't. I put the phone down and started typing this.I kept checking and he was still there.
Finally he said thank you for helping him make 100 dollars and I laughed and said he must get paid by the hour.

OK he finally hung up Razz Razz Razz

I'm almost positive I get theses calls because of my Craigslist posts. I spell my tel number and even use incorrect spelling so they must hire someone to peruse the ads and and give them the phone numbers.

This crap should be illegal.. Not to mention the calls I keep getting from the police telling me I better contact them or I'm going to jail.. The wife too. They even leave a voice mail LOL.

By pressing two you just confirmed that your number was a valid number so you go to the head of the list. So to speak. Often they just auto call a block of numbers in sequential order. I worked one place in the evenings where their calls would hit each phone in order. I could get ahead of them and pick up the call and then transfer them to somewhere else.
I'm sure you are right about these particular people. But there are some who really will take you off their list.
Just nit these son of a bitches.
My problem is I have no way of knowing who they are unless I answer. And by answering that also confirms that your number was a valid number.
Plus they use our area code.
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(06-29-2018, 03:48 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.

  They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.
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(06-29-2018, 04:24 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 03:48 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.

  They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.

I like to keep them on the phone as long as I can. I pretend to be interested, ask really dumb questions (comes natural to me).
The circus ticket guy called once and I ask how many elephants they had?
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#7
(06-29-2018, 04:24 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 03:48 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.

  They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.
Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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(06-29-2018, 05:33 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 04:24 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 03:48 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.

  They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.
Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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OK I'll remember to not ever say Yes and instead say Fuck you. Laughing


I still think in order for this scam to work they would have to somehow actually know who I am.



Here’s how it works: You get a call from someone who almost immediately asks “Can you hear me?” Their goal is to get you to answer “Yes,” which most people would do instinctively in that situation. There may be some fumbling around; the person may even say something like “I’m having trouble with my headset.” But in fact, the “person” may just be a robocall recording your conversation… and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.
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(06-29-2018, 05:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:33 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 04:24 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 03:48 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.

  They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.
Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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OK I'll remember to not ever say Yes and instead say Fuck you.


I still think in order for this scam to work they would have to somehow actually know who I am.



Here’s how it works: You get a call from someone who almost immediately asks “Can you hear me?” Their goal is to get you to answer “Yes,” which most people would do instinctively in that situation. There may be some fumbling around; the person may even say something like “I’m having trouble with my headset.” But in fact, the “person” may just be a robocall recording your conversation… and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.


What makes you think they don't know who you are? They pay other companies for your information. It happens all the time.


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(06-29-2018, 08:29 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:33 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 04:24 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 03:48 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Be careful!  I've been told that clicking numbers or saying the word "yes" at any point can get you in hot water!  This is what those asswipes do for a living... they have ways of making it look as though you said "yes" or pressed 3 to accept their offer.

  They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.
Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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OK I'll remember to not ever say Yes and instead say Fuck you.


I still think in order for this scam to work they would have to somehow actually know who I am.



Here’s how it works: You get a call from someone who almost immediately asks “Can you hear me?” Their goal is to get you to answer “Yes,” which most people would do instinctively in that situation. There may be some fumbling around; the person may even say something like “I’m having trouble with my headset.” But in fact, the “person” may just be a robocall recording your conversation… and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.


What makes you think they don't know who you are?  They pay other companies for your information.  It happens all the time.


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I've asked them to say who I was a million times. They claim that they can get me a lower credit rate than the one I have because they CAN SEE that I pay my bills on time etc.
 When I ask them to tell me who I am they try and deflect and then just hang up on me.

 These guys pay for phone numbers, that's all they have. I'm not saying that will always be the case. You are probably right. I should just hang up. But then that proves they have a valid number.

and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.

 Here's what I don't understand about how this allegedly works.I've NEVER bought anything over the phone or on the internet where all the seller needed was for me to say the word YES.
 They would have to ALREADY have my credit card number. It's expiration date. Plus the other numbers on the back.
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(06-30-2018, 12:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 08:29 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:33 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 04:24 PM)tvguy Wrote:   They don't even know who they are talking to. So no matter what I say it doesn't matter. They pretend they do and they pretend they can see my credit rating.
I could agree to anything but if they don't know who I am and have no credit card number they can't do Jack shit.
Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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OK I'll remember to not ever say Yes and instead say Fuck you.


I still think in order for this scam to work they would have to somehow actually know who I am.



Here’s how it works: You get a call from someone who almost immediately asks “Can you hear me?” Their goal is to get you to answer “Yes,” which most people would do instinctively in that situation. There may be some fumbling around; the person may even say something like “I’m having trouble with my headset.” But in fact, the “person” may just be a robocall recording your conversation… and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.


What makes you think they don't know who you are?  They pay other companies for your information.  It happens all the time.


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I've asked them to say who I was a million times. They claim that they can get me a lower credit rate than the one I have because they CAN SEE that I pay my bills on time etc.
 When I ask them to tell me who I am they try and deflect and then just hang up on me.

 These guys pay for phone numbers, that's all they have. I'm not saying that will always be the case. You are probably right. I should just hang up. But then that proves they have a valid number.

and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.

 Here's what I don't understand about how this allegedly works.I've NEVER bought anything over the phone or on the internet where all the seller needed was for me to say the word YES.
 They would have to ALREADY have my credit card number. It's expiration date. Plus the other numbers on the back.
If you're on your cell phone they have ways to add charges to your phone. I seem to recall some scam called "cramming"???? Something like that.


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(06-30-2018, 01:00 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-30-2018, 12:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 08:29 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:33 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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OK I'll remember to not ever say Yes and instead say Fuck you.


I still think in order for this scam to work they would have to somehow actually know who I am.



Here’s how it works: You get a call from someone who almost immediately asks “Can you hear me?” Their goal is to get you to answer “Yes,” which most people would do instinctively in that situation. There may be some fumbling around; the person may even say something like “I’m having trouble with my headset.” But in fact, the “person” may just be a robocall recording your conversation… and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.


What makes you think they don't know who you are?  They pay other companies for your information.  It happens all the time.


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I've asked them to say who I was a million times. They claim that they can get me a lower credit rate than the one I have because they CAN SEE that I pay my bills on time etc.
 When I ask them to tell me who I am they try and deflect and then just hang up on me.

 These guys pay for phone numbers, that's all they have. I'm not saying that will always be the case. You are probably right. I should just hang up. But then that proves they have a valid number.

and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.

 Here's what I don't understand about how this allegedly works.I've NEVER bought anything over the phone or on the internet where all the seller needed was for me to say the word YES.
 They would have to ALREADY have my credit card number. It's expiration date. Plus the other numbers on the back.
If you're on your cell phone they have ways to add charges to your phone. I seem to recall some scam called "cramming"???? Something like that.


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Here's another one....
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/new-.../189071898


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(06-30-2018, 01:00 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-30-2018, 12:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 08:29 PM)Scrapper Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:47 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(06-29-2018, 05:33 PM)Scrapper Wrote: Don't be so sure...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go....d=46405703

https://www.bbb.org/en/us/article/news-r...st-hang-up

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/97237592


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OK I'll remember to not ever say Yes and instead say Fuck you.


I still think in order for this scam to work they would have to somehow actually know who I am.



Here’s how it works: You get a call from someone who almost immediately asks “Can you hear me?” Their goal is to get you to answer “Yes,” which most people would do instinctively in that situation. There may be some fumbling around; the person may even say something like “I’m having trouble with my headset.” But in fact, the “person” may just be a robocall recording your conversation… and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.


What makes you think they don't know who you are?  They pay other companies for your information.  It happens all the time.


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I've asked them to say who I was a million times. They claim that they can get me a lower credit rate than the one I have because they CAN SEE that I pay my bills on time etc.
 When I ask them to tell me who I am they try and deflect and then just hang up on me.

 These guys pay for phone numbers, that's all they have. I'm not saying that will always be the case. You are probably right. I should just hang up. But then that proves they have a valid number.

and that “Yes” answer you gave can later be edited to make it sound like you authorized a major purchase.

 Here's what I don't understand about how this allegedly works.I've NEVER bought anything over the phone or on the internet where all the seller needed was for me to say the word YES.
 They would have to ALREADY have my credit card number. It's expiration date. Plus the other numbers on the back.
If you're on your cell phone they have ways to add charges to your phone. I seem to recall some scam called "cramming"???? Something like that.


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I suppose that's a real issue. But mine and my wife's cell phone provider(US Cellular) would not make ME pay for that.
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