I actually agree with Trump
(11-27-2018, 04:07 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(11-27-2018, 03:53 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-27-2018, 03:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(11-27-2018, 02:14 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-26-2018, 10:24 PM)Juniper Wrote: Oh, I don't think Trump would actually do something like that, but then, he never ceases to astonish me.

Do something like what? I see nothing wrong with this.........."a show or use of force (including lethal force, where necessary), crowd control, temporary detention, and cursory search.""

Visions of the Berlin Wall come to mind. I would think if we can claim to be the "greatest country in the world" we could manage our boarder without killing poor people and their children. That would be horrific on the international evening news.

That's what I see wrong with it.
Well I guess you and the others missed the part that said "where necessary" .

Who said anything about killing poor people and their children? In my mind "where necessary" would mean if someone's life was in danger.

 


No, I didn't miss that. The trouble is you have no say in what "where necessary" means. Neither do I. Which makes me wonder who does.

Besides the scenario you describe has always been there for the boarder patrol, no military needed. No Presidential directives needed. It's all just more political theater, at our expense.

There must be a million cops who know when "where necessary" means as well as tens of millions of gun owners like me will determine "where necessary" means.
So I don't know why I would not trust our military. And members of the military have always had the right to protect themselves anyway.
 Sure the military is partly for show but unnecessary? I would love to hear the Border patrol guys opinion on that.

the scenario you describe has always been there for the boarder patrol, no military needed.

 When was the last time there were 5 to 7 thousand people stacked up behind our border?
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I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-19-2018, 10:16 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 10-23-2018, 10:01 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 10-23-2018, 10:02 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-23-2018, 10:10 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 10-23-2018, 10:03 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 10-23-2018, 10:04 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by Scrapper - 10-23-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 10-23-2018, 01:16 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GPnative - 10-23-2018, 01:39 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-23-2018, 03:04 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-23-2018, 02:33 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-23-2018, 02:54 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-23-2018, 03:11 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-23-2018, 03:32 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-23-2018, 04:00 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GPnative - 10-23-2018, 02:55 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 10-24-2018, 09:12 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-24-2018, 12:42 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 02:06 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 10-24-2018, 01:38 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-24-2018, 02:09 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 02:12 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-24-2018, 02:18 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 02:29 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-24-2018, 03:31 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 05:17 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GCG - 10-24-2018, 05:32 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 05:37 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-25-2018, 12:48 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-25-2018, 01:47 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 10-24-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 07:27 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 10-24-2018, 07:40 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 08:03 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 08:38 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-24-2018, 08:43 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-24-2018, 09:43 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-24-2018, 03:18 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-24-2018, 05:02 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 10-24-2018, 06:55 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-24-2018, 07:56 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 10-24-2018, 08:02 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-24-2018, 08:19 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-29-2018, 09:50 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GPnative - 10-24-2018, 02:34 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Scrapper - 10-24-2018, 09:57 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-25-2018, 10:05 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-29-2018, 09:53 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-30-2018, 12:59 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-30-2018, 01:03 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-30-2018, 04:00 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 10-30-2018, 04:21 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 10-30-2018, 06:03 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 10-30-2018, 07:12 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-01-2018, 02:06 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-01-2018, 10:35 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-02-2018, 11:48 AM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-03-2018, 03:07 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-08-2018, 12:17 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-08-2018, 02:57 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-18-2018, 08:00 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-18-2018, 08:32 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-18-2018, 09:06 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-18-2018, 09:25 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-18-2018, 10:44 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-18-2018, 10:49 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-18-2018, 10:52 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-18-2018, 11:04 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-19-2018, 03:13 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-21-2018, 12:31 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-21-2018, 03:58 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-25-2018, 05:31 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-25-2018, 06:06 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-25-2018, 06:13 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Scrapper - 11-25-2018, 06:52 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-25-2018, 07:08 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-25-2018, 07:01 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-25-2018, 07:17 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-25-2018, 08:36 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-25-2018, 08:51 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GPnative - 11-26-2018, 10:15 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-26-2018, 10:51 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 09:02 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 11-26-2018, 09:37 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 09:43 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 11-26-2018, 09:48 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 09:53 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 11-26-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-26-2018, 03:03 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-26-2018, 03:08 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 09:01 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-26-2018, 10:17 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 10:24 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 02:14 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-27-2018, 03:01 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 03:53 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-27-2018, 04:07 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-27-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 07:15 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-27-2018, 07:49 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-27-2018, 07:47 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 08:46 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-27-2018, 09:39 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 09:49 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-27-2018, 09:53 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-28-2018, 01:39 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Scrapper - 11-26-2018, 10:30 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 10:37 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 11-26-2018, 10:45 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 02:11 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-26-2018, 10:51 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 02:10 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 11-27-2018, 07:46 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-27-2018, 08:41 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Scrapper - 11-27-2018, 12:46 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 11-28-2018, 01:42 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-28-2018, 02:36 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 11-28-2018, 03:15 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 11-28-2018, 03:37 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 12-17-2018, 09:12 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 12-18-2018, 07:38 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 12-18-2018, 07:06 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 12-17-2018, 05:53 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 12-17-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 12-17-2018, 09:11 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 12-17-2018, 06:43 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 12-18-2018, 06:42 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 12-18-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 12-18-2018, 12:05 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 12-18-2018, 12:54 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 12-18-2018, 01:02 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 12-18-2018, 07:14 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 12-27-2018, 09:59 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 12-28-2018, 10:03 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-01-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-01-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-01-2019, 07:11 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-01-2019, 07:47 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 12-31-2018, 06:58 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-02-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-02-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-02-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-02-2019, 05:05 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-02-2019, 08:59 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-02-2019, 10:09 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-04-2019, 06:08 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-04-2019, 07:19 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-05-2019, 02:58 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-05-2019, 03:28 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-07-2019, 09:12 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-07-2019, 11:17 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 01-08-2019, 08:06 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-09-2019, 12:15 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Someones Dad - 01-09-2019, 11:01 AM
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I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-09-2019, 09:58 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-09-2019, 10:01 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-09-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Valuesize - 01-09-2019, 11:46 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-09-2019, 07:23 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-09-2019, 07:53 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-09-2019, 08:32 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Juniper - 01-09-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-09-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-09-2019, 09:39 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-09-2019, 10:29 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-09-2019, 11:37 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GPnative - 01-10-2019, 08:25 AM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-09-2019, 09:59 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-09-2019, 10:34 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-10-2019, 12:28 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-10-2019, 11:22 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-10-2019, 11:25 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-10-2019, 11:53 AM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-11-2019, 03:21 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-13-2019, 10:30 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-14-2019, 02:05 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-15-2019, 04:06 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-17-2019, 10:29 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-17-2019, 10:30 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-18-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-19-2019, 11:02 AM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-20-2019, 12:28 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-20-2019, 12:31 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-22-2019, 06:13 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-22-2019, 06:31 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-23-2019, 07:09 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-23-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-23-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-23-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-23-2019, 03:42 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-23-2019, 05:40 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Cuzz - 01-23-2019, 07:07 PM
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RE: I actually agree with Trump - by GPnative - 01-23-2019, 09:12 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-24-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by chuck white - 01-24-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by Scrapper - 01-22-2019, 07:44 AM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-22-2019, 03:26 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by oregon 67 - 01-23-2019, 07:05 PM
RE: I actually agree with Trump - by tvguy - 01-23-2019, 07:09 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-29-2019, 01:12 PM
I actually agree with Trump - by SFLiberal - 01-29-2019, 03:38 PM

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