I actually agree with Trump
(12-17-2018, 06:26 PM)chuck white Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 05:53 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: Pop quiz: What is the Federal Governments #1 role and mandate?  (Hint:  It's not healthcare)

Defense of the nation.
A nation that is sick is not well defended.
So for a strong nation, we need healthy people. What good is a nation, if the people are not prosperous and healthy.

Maintaining the 3 levels of government.
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(11-28-2018, 03:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 03:15 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 02:36 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 01:42 PM)chuck white Wrote: I thought they were legal immigrants.  Trying to enter through the 'port of entry' to ask for asylum.

  They aren't illegal until they break through or try to break through to our border. We can't have so many go through the asylum seeking process fast enough for some which is why they bum rushed the border.

The also broke past the Mexican police so they are breaking Mexico's laws also.

Technically they have to cross the boarder to present themselves at our port of entry since it has to be in our country not Mexico.
Right and we are letting as many as we can handle do exactly that.

Do you agree with Trump to shut down the Government to build his wall?
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"The role of any national government is to protect the safety and well-being of its citizens and the sovereignty of the country's borders."
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(12-17-2018, 09:12 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 03:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 03:15 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 02:36 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 01:42 PM)chuck white Wrote: I thought they were legal immigrants.  Trying to enter through the 'port of entry' to ask for asylum.

  They aren't illegal until they break through or try to break through to our border. We can't have so many go through the asylum seeking process fast enough for some which is why they bum rushed the border.

The also broke past the Mexican police so they are breaking Mexico's laws also.

Technically they have to cross the boarder to present themselves at our port of entry since it has to be in our country not Mexico.
Right and we are letting as many as we can handle do exactly that.

Do you agree with Trump to shut down the Government to build his wall?
Of course not and it saddens me that you would think I might.
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(12-18-2018, 06:42 AM)Someones Dad Wrote: https://www.reference.com/government-pol...ca5040b051

"The role of any national government is to protect the safety and well-being of its citizens and the sovereignty of the country's borders."

Ghee whizz Mr. wizard tell us more.

Anyway what's your point? Is there someone here wanting open borders That I missed?

Or are you saying the number one roll of government will only be upheld by letting trump spend 5 billion?
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(12-18-2018, 06:42 AM)Someones Dad Wrote: https://www.reference.com/government-pol...ca5040b051

"The role of any national government is to protect the safety and well-being of its citizens and the sovereignty of the country's borders."

Are you changing your point from it being the "#1 role and mandate" of government to being a role of government? If you are I would agree with that. It is one role of government among many.
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(12-18-2018, 12:05 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-18-2018, 06:42 AM)Someones Dad Wrote: https://www.reference.com/government-pol...ca5040b051

"The role of any national government is to protect the safety and well-being of its citizens and the sovereignty of the country's borders."

Are you changing your point from it being the "#1 role and mandate" of government to being a role of government? If you are I would agree with that. It is one role of government among many.
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(12-18-2018, 12:54 PM)Someones Dad Wrote:
(12-18-2018, 12:05 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(12-18-2018, 06:42 AM)Someones Dad Wrote: https://www.reference.com/government-pol...ca5040b051

"The role of any national government is to protect the safety and well-being of its citizens and the sovereignty of the country's borders."

Are you changing your point from it being the "#1 role and mandate" of government to being a role of government? If you are I would agree with that. It is one role of government among many.

I thought so. You're wrong. It's just your opinion.
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(12-18-2018, 07:38 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 09:12 PM)Juniper Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 03:37 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 03:15 PM)Cuzz Wrote:
(11-28-2018, 02:36 PM)tvguy Wrote:   They aren't illegal until they break through or try to break through to our border. We can't have so many go through the asylum seeking process fast enough for some which is why they bum rushed the border.

The also broke past the Mexican police so they are breaking Mexico's laws also.

Technically they have to cross the boarder to present themselves at our port of entry since it has to be in our country not Mexico.
Right and we are letting as many as we can handle do exactly that.

Do you agree with Trump to shut down the Government to build his wall?
Of course not and it saddens me that you would think I might.
I didn't say you thought it. I asked you to clarify it. Wink
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(12-18-2018, 06:42 AM)Someones Dad Wrote: https://www.reference.com/government-pol...ca5040b051

"The role of any national government is to protect the safety and well-being of its citizens and the sovereignty of the country's borders."

Your reference says to protect the safety and well being and sovereignty of it's  citizens and borders. But it doesn't say in that sentence how it will do that. However, in the next paragraph it clearly states the executive, legislative and judicial branches. Each branch operates based on criteria established by constitutional authority.
Quote:Each branch works individually and collectively to establish and maintain laws for the country as a whole

So, my take on your take is that your take is a tiny bit out of context. Laughing Or rather extrapolated to mean a specific thing when in fact is it something within a broader definition. And all the parts of the government need to work together to define and apply this principle.  But really, I had kind of a rough day and when I'm super tired as I am now, my brain kind of shuts down a bit and I'm not entirely articulate about what I want to say or how I want to say it. So forgive me for that. Embarrassed
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(12-28-2018, 10:03 AM)SFLiberal Wrote: [Image: 15321b7ceb8f688c0754ddb2d6895164.jpg]


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"Liberals say" my ass
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(01-01-2019, 05:35 PM)Juniper Wrote:
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IMO the meme with all the arrows is kind of ridiculous. It implies that building a wall on our southern border is not effective because there are so many other places where there isn't a wall.
But I guess the fact that probably 99% of the illegals coming in to our country do so from the south doesn't mean anything?

BTW 99% is a guess. Razz
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(01-01-2019, 07:11 PM)tvguy Wrote:
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IMO the meme with all the arrows is kind of ridiculous. It implies that building a wall on our southern border is not effective because there are so many other places where there isn't a wall.
But I guess the fact that probably 99% of the illegals coming in to our country do so from the south doesn't mean anything?

BTW 99% is a guess. Razz

Yeah, but this is the map to show the radical Islamists the other way in! That's what it implies to me. Big Grin I was thinking of those hidden terrorist in the caravans when I saw this.
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If Trump would just stop talking and let Secretary Kirstjen Neilsen do the talking, people would be more supportive. Trump just opens his mouth and makes us sick.
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So during the press conference, while Secretary Neilsen is talking and it's being streamed on FB all the little emojis floating by are likes and loves. Then Trump comes on and they change to angry emojis. He just needs to STFU.
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(01-02-2019, 12:23 PM)Juniper Wrote: So during the press conference, while Secretary Neilsen is talking and it's being streamed on FB all the little emojis floating by are likes and loves.  Then Trump comes on and they change to angry emojis. He just needs to STFU.

I've never seem the emojis stream by like that. It's kind of cool that people can express their feeling that way. I guess
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