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Im a runner, as i said before,and in my circle and running tracker followers, multiple 5k and 10k competitions, no one ever says jog, jogging or jogger any more. Look at it this way, when was the last time you saw running shoes marketed as jogging shoes?
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(05-18-2020, 05:14 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 04:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:06 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:55 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-17-2020, 12:59 PM)tvguy Wrote: CONVICTING?? Many start over and read all my comments. Number one this was not a hate crime and there is zero evidence to make that conclusion.
TWO the crime is not felony murder.
THREE it's no fact that Arbery was only jogging.That's a conclusion.
I believe we use the term "jogging" differently. Your usage (and GP's as well) seems to imply "a form of regular exercise" while I tend to use it as "running at a moderate pace". Surely related but not necessarily the same. Jogging is an exercise that involves running. Running can be for a totally different reason. What I'm saying is it's a conclusion to claim he was jogging/exercising. There is no proof of WHY he was running so IMO to claim he was only jogging is simply a way to claim he was innocent and not involved in anything nefarious.
Just like claiming the incident occurred because he was black.
Jogging is to running like a shower is to rain. I think most people would say they're a runner not a jogger. Really? I hear people say jogging a lot more than running.
When was the last time you heard someone say "I'm going for a jog"?!?! Most people would say "I'm going for a run"... whether they are running or jogging.
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(05-18-2020, 07:27 PM)Scrapper Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:14 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 04:01 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:06 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-17-2020, 04:55 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I believe we use the term "jogging" differently. Your usage (and GP's as well) seems to imply "a form of regular exercise" while I tend to use it as "running at a moderate pace". Surely related but not necessarily the same. Jogging is an exercise that involves running. Running can be for a totally different reason. What I'm saying is it's a conclusion to claim he was jogging/exercising. There is no proof of WHY he was running so IMO to claim he was only jogging is simply a way to claim he was innocent and not involved in anything nefarious.
Just like claiming the incident occurred because he was black.
Jogging is to running like a shower is to rain. I think most people would say they're a runner not a jogger. Really? I hear people say jogging a lot more than running.
When was the last time you heard someone say "I'm going for a jog"?!?! Most people would say "I'm going for a run"... whether they are running or jogging.
I go on a walk about.
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(05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:50 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:23 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 08:55 AM)Scrapper Wrote: What that implies is just wrong. Like I said....
I'm not saying Arbery was a thief. I am simply saying he could be and that someone did indeed think he was and called 911.
So that fact means two white guys did not simply single out some random innocent black jogger. They were after one person. The person that was reported to 911. So his race didn't matter one bit. I see no reason whatsoever to thing the two men would not have went after a white person or a green person.
I think your guessing, just like everyone else. What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
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(05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:50 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:23 PM)tvguy Wrote: What that implies is just wrong. Like I said....
I'm not saying Arbery was a thief. I am simply saying he could be and that someone did indeed think he was and called 911.
So that fact means two white guys did not simply single out some random innocent black jogger. They were after one person. The person that was reported to 911. So his race didn't matter one bit. I see no reason whatsoever to thing the two men would not have went after a white person or a green person.
I think your guessing, just like everyone else. What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
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(05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:50 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I think your guessing, just like everyone else. What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
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(05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
No, I don't think so, generally.
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(05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 03:50 PM)Cuzz Wrote: I think your guessing, just like everyone else. What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work. OK What is your theory?
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(05-19-2020, 12:14 PM)Scrapper Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
FFS... apparently TVg doesn't give a shit about learning the truth before making a decision. He already has the black man lynched.
OK explain that? I have said repeatedly the two white men were wrong to go after someone who was only a suspect with GUNS.
I never said once that Arbery was guilty of anything. But I have him lynched? I have also said repeatedly that my issue is with the felony murder charge for the two men and they want the same for the guy who followed with the camera.
IMO it should me manslaughter. Also I still see no evidence whatsoever that race was a factor.
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(05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-18-2020, 05:13 PM)tvguy Wrote: What exactly do you think I am guessing about?
All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
Except I don't see anyone thoughts, ideas or beliefs when they comment that I'm just guessing or claim I want to lynch the black guy.
THAT is my frustration and NOT anyone's differing opinion.
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(05-20-2020, 03:10 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: (05-18-2020, 07:06 PM)Cuzz Wrote: All of it. For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
Except I don't see anyone thoughts, ideas or beliefs when they comment that I'm just guessing or claim I want to lynch the black guy.
THAT is my frustration and NOT anyone's differing opinion.
Huh? Really?
"For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense"
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(05-20-2020, 03:22 PM)Scrapper Wrote: (05-20-2020, 03:10 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
Except I don't see anyone thoughts, ideas or beliefs when they comment that I'm just guessing or claim I want to lynch the black guy.
THAT is my frustration and NOT anyone's differing opinion.
Huh? Really?
"For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense"
Holy shit, it is 5 oclock somewhere evidently.
Good luck TV, i dont have a fucking clue what she is talking about, or how she came up with the lynching accusation, off her meds or needs more.
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(05-20-2020, 03:22 PM)Scrapper Wrote: (05-20-2020, 03:10 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-19-2020, 09:30 AM)tvguy Wrote: For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense?
Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
Except I don't see anyone thoughts, ideas or beliefs when they comment that I'm just guessing or claim I want to lynch the black guy.
THAT is my frustration and NOT anyone's differing opinion.
Huh? Really?
"For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense" That was after is was stated that I was guessing about EVERYTHING I had said.. I quoted people I added REAL information and posted video proof of some of what I said.
So yes it pissed me off to be told that.
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(05-20-2020, 08:53 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-20-2020, 03:22 PM)Scrapper Wrote: (05-20-2020, 03:10 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: (05-19-2020, 11:59 AM)Cuzz Wrote: Why? Because I have an opinion you don't like?? My theory is at least as valid as yours is until LE and the courts have completed their work.
Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
Except I don't see anyone thoughts, ideas or beliefs when they comment that I'm just guessing or claim I want to lynch the black guy.
THAT is my frustration and NOT anyone's differing opinion.
Huh? Really?
"For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense" That was after is was stated that I was guessing about EVERYTHING I had said.. I quoted people I added REAL information and posted video proof of some of what I said.
So yes it pissed me off to be told that.
You rile too easily sometimes. And some of what you seem to regard as fact, I don't.
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"And some of what you seem to regard as fact, I don't."
Ditto that.
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(05-20-2020, 09:38 PM)Cuzz Wrote: (05-20-2020, 08:53 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-20-2020, 03:22 PM)Scrapper Wrote: (05-20-2020, 03:10 PM)tvguy Wrote: (05-19-2020, 01:04 PM)Someones Dad Wrote: Quite often, TVGuy's MO. There is no room for your own thoughts, ideas or beliefs. If you don't agree with him, you're just stupid.
Except I don't see anyone thoughts, ideas or beliefs when they comment that I'm just guessing or claim I want to lynch the black guy.
THAT is my frustration and NOT anyone's differing opinion.
Huh? Really?
"For fucks sake apparently you don't have one ounce of common sense" That was after is was stated that I was guessing about EVERYTHING I had said.. I quoted people I added REAL information and posted video proof of some of what I said.
So yes it pissed me off to be told that.
You rile too easily sometimes. And some of what you seem to regard as fact, I don't. OK I rile too easy what have I stated as a fact that is not. Please don't say "everything" like when I asked what I was guessing about.
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And the tale gets even more interesting!
Quote:Man who filmed fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery arrested on murder charge
By — Associated Press
May 21, 2020 6:07 PM EDT
SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) — The Georgia man who filmed cellphone video of Ahmaud Arbery's fatal shooting was arrested Thursday and charged with murder in his death.
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said 50-year-old William "Roddie" Bryan was arrested on charges of felony murder and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment.
Arbery was slain Feb. 23 after a white father and son armed themselves and pursued him after spotting the 25-year-old black man running in their neighborhood. More than two months passed before authorities arrested Gregory McMichael and his son, Travis McMichael, on charges of felony murder and aggravated assault.
Bryan lives in the same subdivision, and the video he took from the cab of his vehicle helped stir a national outcry when it leaked online. Bryan's attorney, Kevin Gough, did not immediately return a phone message.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/man-...bgsap0J2Vk
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