Medford/Ashland fires
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(09-17-2020, 10:53 AM)GPnative Wrote:
(09-17-2020, 09:00 AM)tvguy Wrote:
(09-17-2020, 06:47 AM)GPnative Wrote:
(09-16-2020, 09:26 PM)Juniper Wrote: Today they had a press conference that confirmed that EAS was never given and the JaCo Sheriff alert was inconsistent.  At least we know it's being addressed.  The reporters said the interview was tense.   Probably meaning defensive.  Sheriff Sickler, who I like, doesn't feel that this is the time to address this since the emergency isn't over. That there is time after big events to assess and review what went well and what went wrong, and pointed out that law enforcement went into burning buildings to save people.  And that is the 'best kind of evacuation'.  I think I disagree with him on that point.  I do agree that there should be a time for a thorough investigation into this.  Apparently the same thing happened in Paradise.  What did we learn?  I can't agree that being pulled out of your burning home with no time to gather things and pets is the 'best' evacuation.  Nor do I believe that we should not be at least be putting a contingency plan into effect.  The State is burning.  I don't think we have time for a cozy chat up at a more convenient time.  It's unlikely, but it's possible another event could occur, and having at least a solid plan for how to notify citizens should be looked at.  I saw someone on Facebook suggest we have old fashioned air raid sirens for small towns like these. Sounds like at least it would have alerted people there was an urgent emergency.

I saw a small snip of that press conference on the news. He seemed very defensive, and kicking the can down the road for a future discussion is the sign of someone trying to come up with reasons why the shit failed so miserably in order to save face.

Save face? That implies the sheriff did something wrong. I don't think the fact that there were no  EAS warnings has nothing to do with the sheriff.

Not being willing to talk about it now implies they want to be sure they dot i's and cross t's and get their stories straight for fear they trip up on some details they have no intention of releasing.

And still no mention of cause.....but they want us to believe categorically what did NOT cause it, and yet one person is already jailed for starting a portion of it.  Unsure

  No mention of the cause? This was 8 days ago.....

A criminal investigation is underway at the origin point of the Almeda fire in Ashland, where human remains were found, Jackson County Sheriff Nate Sickler said Wednesday.
The Jackson County Major Assault and Death Investigation Unit is at the early stages of an “active criminal investigation,” Sickler said at a press conference Wednesday afternoon.
“We are still in the early stages,” Sickler said. “Nothing’s been ruled out — it’s still an active investigation.”
It may not be the only fatality, according to Sickler.
The fire started at 11:04 a.m. Tuesday during a red flag fire weather warning and started spreading “at an extreme rate,” Sickler said.

https://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories...re-started
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Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-08-2020, 07:18 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by medfordite - 09-08-2020, 08:02 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-08-2020, 09:00 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-09-2020, 12:29 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-09-2020, 03:09 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-09-2020, 03:12 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-09-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-09-2020, 03:26 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-09-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-09-2020, 04:16 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-09-2020, 10:37 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-10-2020, 07:48 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-10-2020, 11:21 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-10-2020, 08:41 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-11-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-11-2020, 03:40 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-10-2020, 11:30 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-11-2020, 03:41 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-11-2020, 05:02 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-11-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-12-2020, 10:08 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-12-2020, 11:23 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-12-2020, 11:44 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-12-2020, 12:18 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-12-2020, 10:02 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 08:44 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-12-2020, 10:06 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 08:50 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Scrapper - 09-12-2020, 01:41 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-12-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-12-2020, 10:01 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GCG - 09-12-2020, 04:04 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-12-2020, 04:47 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Scrapper - 09-13-2020, 06:47 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 08:51 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-13-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 11:14 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 08:57 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by oregon 67 - 09-13-2020, 09:23 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-13-2020, 10:23 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 11:08 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by oregon 67 - 09-13-2020, 09:10 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-13-2020, 09:53 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by oregon 67 - 09-13-2020, 10:25 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-13-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-13-2020, 12:47 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-13-2020, 12:50 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-13-2020, 03:09 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Someones Dad - 09-13-2020, 02:12 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Someones Dad - 09-15-2020, 06:48 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-15-2020, 07:28 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by bbqboy - 09-13-2020, 01:59 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-13-2020, 02:26 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-13-2020, 03:09 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by bbqboy - 09-13-2020, 03:35 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-13-2020, 09:32 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Scrapper - 09-13-2020, 03:50 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-13-2020, 09:33 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-16-2020, 09:26 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-17-2020, 06:47 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-17-2020, 09:00 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-17-2020, 10:53 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-17-2020, 02:06 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-17-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-17-2020, 03:46 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-17-2020, 06:03 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-17-2020, 09:27 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-18-2020, 06:32 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-18-2020, 02:06 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-18-2020, 03:55 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-18-2020, 05:18 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-18-2020, 06:08 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-19-2020, 10:44 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-19-2020, 04:58 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-20-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-20-2020, 05:39 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-20-2020, 06:19 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-20-2020, 10:38 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-21-2020, 06:52 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-21-2020, 02:08 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-21-2020, 11:04 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by chuck white - 09-22-2020, 12:35 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-22-2020, 01:11 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-22-2020, 09:37 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-23-2020, 10:28 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-18-2020, 02:03 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-18-2020, 02:40 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-18-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-19-2020, 10:21 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-18-2020, 02:01 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-17-2020, 09:52 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-18-2020, 06:41 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-18-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-17-2020, 09:35 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-17-2020, 10:55 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-17-2020, 11:06 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-17-2020, 02:09 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-19-2020, 10:33 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 09-20-2020, 07:29 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-20-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-20-2020, 10:35 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Scrapper - 09-21-2020, 09:22 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Someones Dad - 09-23-2020, 08:58 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 09-23-2020, 10:34 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by GPnative - 09-23-2020, 01:08 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 09-23-2020, 09:38 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by chuck white - 09-24-2020, 12:08 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Someones Dad - 09-24-2020, 05:51 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 01-13-2022, 09:37 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Cuzz - 01-14-2022, 08:22 AM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 01-14-2022, 02:47 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by tvguy - 01-14-2022, 02:46 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 01-14-2022, 09:03 PM
RE: Medford/Ashland fires - by Juniper - 01-14-2022, 09:06 PM

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