Covid 19
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(10-05-2021, 08:36 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(10-05-2021, 05:46 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(10-05-2021, 04:50 PM)tvguy Wrote:
(10-05-2021, 01:22 PM)GPnative Wrote:
(10-04-2021, 01:34 PM)tvguy Wrote:  He could have but look at the odds, 86% of the dead were NOT vaccinated. That's
  like saying a guy who died in a horrible car crash who didn't have a seat belt ...could have died even if he wore a seat belt.
91% of all the people with covid in three hospitals are un vaccinated. That speaks for itself and proves the vaccine is working and working very well.
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I am aware of the data. One could say it is a therapy, but until they moved the goal post of what a vaccine is, this one fails.

In JoCo, Since 8/1/21, 117 deaths, 87 were unvaxed, 30 were vaxed. That is a failure of a vaccine by any data set. You can still get covid, you can still spread covid, you can still die of covid and on top of it all, you still need to wear a mask.
 

75% of covid deaths were un vacinated

25% of covid deaths were vaccinated

Yesterday 91% of the people hospitalized at Asante were un vaccinated

So only 9% were vaccinated.  So no it's not perfect but by what stretch of the imagination do you come by the conclusion the vaccine is a failure?

Also I believe the reason the death rate for vaccinated people is higher than the percentage of vaccinated people being hospitalized is because those are people with other medical issues and they are older.

 29 of the deaths form the vaccinated were older than 65 (probably WAY older)  and only 4 under 65

For the reasons I stated, you can get it, you can spread it, you can die from it. When looking at it through the lens of what a vaccine is supposed to accomplish, it fails. I would put weight loss, exercise, eating right, etc. just as effective as the shot. Which will yield far great health benefits in the long run.
For some reason you have already decided the vaccine is a failure and to hell with facts I post that prove otherwise.

For the reasons I stated, you can get it, you can spread it, you can die from it.

 I think you are rationalizing why you were right to not get the vaccine. Other wise I have no clue why you can't admit the vaccine is keeping most people from getting seriously sick or dying from covid.

Not rationalizing anything, I also stated facts. Therefore this whole issue comes down to risk assessment. You got the shot, good for you, your risk is different than my risk. My risk of death is damn near zero.
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Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-03-2021, 02:45 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-03-2021, 05:05 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-04-2021, 01:34 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-05-2021, 01:22 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-05-2021, 04:50 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-05-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-05-2021, 08:36 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-06-2021, 09:16 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-07-2021, 01:15 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-03-2021, 05:18 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-04-2021, 01:35 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-06-2021, 06:23 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-06-2021, 09:18 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-07-2021, 01:20 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-07-2021, 03:00 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-08-2021, 08:21 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-08-2021, 02:29 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-08-2021, 08:04 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-08-2021, 09:03 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Someones Dad - 10-08-2021, 10:07 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-10-2021, 09:43 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 09:50 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Someones Dad - 10-21-2021, 11:10 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-21-2021, 02:33 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 04:33 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-15-2021, 02:06 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-15-2021, 03:47 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-16-2021, 01:36 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-16-2021, 02:25 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-16-2021, 01:35 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Someones Dad - 10-19-2021, 08:32 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-20-2021, 03:04 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Someones Dad - 10-20-2021, 05:43 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-20-2021, 06:19 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 09:09 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Someones Dad - 10-21-2021, 11:10 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-21-2021, 11:37 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-21-2021, 02:35 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-21-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-21-2021, 02:38 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by chuck white - 10-21-2021, 01:00 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-21-2021, 02:55 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-21-2021, 06:12 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 06:35 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-21-2021, 07:35 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Someones Dad - 10-22-2021, 05:50 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-21-2021, 04:41 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 04:42 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 10-21-2021, 04:57 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by GPnative - 10-21-2021, 05:25 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 10-21-2021, 07:48 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by chuck white - 10-21-2021, 10:33 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 10-22-2021, 05:11 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Juniper - 11-15-2021, 10:43 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 11-16-2021, 04:38 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Scrapper - 11-18-2021, 09:44 AM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 11-18-2021, 03:37 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by Cuzz - 11-18-2021, 04:11 PM
RE: Covid 19 - by tvguy - 11-18-2021, 08:23 PM

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