Horse slaughter plant planned for eastern Oregon after change in national rules
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http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northw...anned.html

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Excerpt: "A horse slaughter and processing plant -- which could be among the first in the country in five years -- may open in Hermiston within a year.

The $3 million venture would market frozen horse meat for consumption mainly overseas where it remains a traditional food in places like China. The meat also would be used to make food for pets and fed to zoo animals.

The nation's last three horse slaughter plants -- in Illinois and Texas -- closed in 2007, bringing an end to the annual killing and processing of roughly 100,000 of the nation's 9.2 million horses.

While animal welfare organizations applauded the closures, an unexpected reversal came in November with the passage of the 2012 Federal Agricultural Appropriations Bill. Signed into law by President Obama, it lifted a congressional ban on domestic horse meat inspections that had effectively killed the U.S. industry.

Slaughter advocates and critics alike mostly agree that the ban flopped, causing steep declines in horse prices and widespread abandonment of horses. All the while, horses continued to be trucked to Mexico and Canada for slaughter.

A revived industry is certain to renew a clash over how to deal with aged or lame horses and what to do with the country's burgeoning wild horse population. The Humane Society of the United States is pressing for passage of the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act to prohibit horse slaughter from resuming in the U.S. and end the export horses for slaughter.

Nonetheless, backers of the Oregon plant have made an offer to buy 252 acres north of Interstate 84 near Hermiston and the landowner has accepted, said Dave Duquette, a Hermiston horse trainer who is organizing the enterprise.

Private investors and Northwest tribes are likely to underwrite the proposed 20,000-square-foot operation that would employ 100 people and slaughter 25,000 horses a year, Duquette said.

It would include a "rescue and rejuvenation program" run by the nonprofit 22,000-member United Horsemen's Association, he said. Homes would be found for horses coming into the plant that hold promise for saddle, show and other purposes, he said.

No Northwest tribal councils have signed off on the project yet, but the tribes are bowed by crushing numbers of ownerless horses on the reservations.

Examples: An estimated 6,000 horses roam the 640,000-acre Warm Springs Indian Reservation near Madras; up to 15,000 horses range across the 1.4 million-acre Yakama Indian Reservation in central Washington and 350 horses roam the 178,000-acre Umatilla Indian Reservation near Pendleton.

"We have 10 times the number of horses that the range can carry," said Jim Stephenson, spokesman for the Yakama Nation. "This is the worst range habitat conditions I have ever seen."

Ownerless horses trample roots and berries that are important to traditional native feasts and leave little forage for other wildlife, Stephenson said. That impacts "fisheries, deer and elk, everything a traditional people depend on," he said.

The slaughter market had been important to tribal people for decades because it helped reduce the herd sizes, Stephenson said.

Other slaughter plants are also in the works near Mountain Grove, Mo,. and Riverton, Wyo., said Sue Wallis, a Wyoming rancher, state legislator and slaughter advocate.

Dr. Jacob Mecham, ambulatory veterinarian at the College of Veterinary Medicine at Oregon State University, said most horse practitioners he knows regret the closure of the slaughter plants.

Some horses are in chronic pain and others have medical conditions that are incurable, leaving no option but to euthanize them, Mecham said. Just the drug alone to euthanize a horse costs $150, and that doesn't cover other costs and disposal of the carcass, he said.

"Many people just don't have an extra $500," Mecham said. "When they took away the slaughter plants, there was a lot of pain and suffering for horses..."
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#2
So,what does horse taste like.

I won't think chicken.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/01...23315.html
What Horse Meat Tastes Like

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Excerpt: "Horse meat is consumed in several large countries worldwide, but it remains quite the taboo in North America. ... So, what does it taste like?

Horse is a versatile meat that lends itself to a variety of preparations. It has more protein, and less fat than lean beef. It tastes somewhat like a mix between beef and venison. It can be a bit sweeter than other red meats, yet still possesses a dense meat flavor with a hint of gaminess.

In Parma, Italy, it is often eaten raw -- similar to beef tartare (same with Japan). Further north, in Verona, it is served as a stew. Horse meat is the basis of many Kazak dishes. Like other red meats, it can also be served as a roast, or ground up into a burger."
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#4
Of all of Marilyn's picture, The Misfits is by far my favorite.
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Boiled horse hoofs are one of my favorites.


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#6
I am against the slaughter houses but I do believe a horse with an illness can be euthanized.
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(03-11-2012, 09:08 AM)rainylady Wrote: I am against the slaughter houses but I do believe a horse with an illness can be euthanized.

Then what do you do with 1000 lb dead horse after you euthanize it.

Don't waste meat.
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(03-11-2012, 09:16 AM)chuck white Wrote:
(03-11-2012, 09:08 AM)rainylady Wrote: I am against the slaughter houses but I do believe a horse with an illness can be euthanized.

Then what do you do with 1000 lb dead horse after you euthanize it.

Don't waste meat.

You would have to shoot it . Other wise the meat is not fit for any consumption, zoos, wildlife parks,etc.
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#9
I couldn't bring myself to eat horse and shouldn't be averse to their slaughter for food, but... They are such intelligent animals. It seems a shame.
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#10
I'm tempted to go to the web and find pictures of a horse looking intellectual, but what would I look for - glasses? Laughing
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(03-12-2012, 01:26 PM)TennisMom Wrote: I couldn't bring myself to eat horse and shouldn't be averse to their slaughter for food, but... They are such intelligent animals. It seems a shame.

So you only want to eat dumb animals?

Big Grin
You are what you eat
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(03-12-2012, 04:10 PM)PonderThis Wrote: I'm tempted to go to the web and find pictures of a horse looking intellectual, but what would I look for - glasses? Laughing

Generally. Horse are well read.
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#13
Horses are like dogs, they are our allies and can serve us well in cases of traveling, camping, and pure recreation. Just think how good the horses were at helping the Pilgrims and Native Americans when we had no cars.
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I haven't spent a great deal of time on this issue; my initial impression is the objection isn't directed to the actual slaughter. The objections are directed much more to the way the horses are gathered up and taken to slaughter.

I have started to watch videos of horses on their way to slaughter and I couldn't watch it for very long.

That's how bad it is...

To start with, they are purchased in groups at auctions and herded into trailers with no room to move. If one goes down, the others have to stand on it and it dies a long, suffering death. Add no water nor food to the picture and you can begin to see the point.
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#15
I was talking to a neighbor that works at the local horse ranch, and he says it costs them $300 to have a vet come in and euthanize a horse. That, and a big hole.
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(03-13-2012, 03:32 PM)PonderThis Wrote: I was talking to a neighbor that works at the local horse ranch, and he says it costs them $300 to have a vet come in and euthanize a horse. That, and a big hole.

That would seem to be the right thing to do, to me.
If you can't afford the care of these animals you shouldn't have them.
The way I was raised, you didn't have the vet come out, you shot them through the head by the big hole.
It's a part of farm life.
Not loading them onto trucks for days/weeks of suffering and abuse.
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#17
The vet told him where to shoot a horse if it ever was a true emergency (like, one caught up in a fence, he mentioned). However, it's apparently never happened. I read elsewhere that the euthanasia chemicals alone cost about $150 for a horse, so $300 is perhaps not out of line to have the vet do it. He said they go calmly that way, versus a lot of kicking when they die naturally. This horse ranch bills itself as a retirement ranch for horses, so it apparently happens a lot. I'm sure these are wealthier people that own them, too.
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#18
They must have a backhoe, then. Wink
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No, they don't. They use a large tractor with a loader (perhaps twice as big as mine), and make a ramp going down into the ground in order to get it deep enough. It takes a large tractor and 4 wheel drive to do it that way.
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#20
I say let them roam free and die free.
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